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Nov 8 or Nov 15 in St. Louis? anyone want to gather? Spokey?(22 posts)

Nov 8 or Nov 15 in St. Louis? anyone want to gather? Spokey?JS Haiku Shop
Oct 28, 2003 9:17 AM
any interest in a saturday RBR ride in the general vicinity of St. Louis?

i'll be on vacation and would consider the drive if there's sufficient interest.

have 'cross races on nov 9 and 16, so will need to make it a one-day drive/ride/drive.

Oct 28, 2003 9:23 AM
I have family there and could perhaps work a visit up there. Pre Thanksgiving visit would be a hit with the relatives. I wonder if Dale could come up. But then again... I don't want to go on some epic freaking adventure 10 hour ride or something. You guys are crazy with all that mileage. Would need to be something reasonable... but then again... this is JS we are talking about...

November in St LouisSpecialTater
Oct 28, 2003 9:38 AM
That's what dreams are made of...Shouldn't you head south for winter? Not to mention you can see Illinois from there.
re: Nov 8 or Nov 15 in St. Louis? anyone want to gather? Spokey?Juanmoretime
Oct 28, 2003 9:52 AM
I live about 2 and 1/2 hours away from St. Louis, what did you have in mind for a ride?
Oct 28, 2003 9:58 AM
I'd be in. Sounds like a good time.
distance, etcJS Haiku Shop
Oct 28, 2003 10:00 AM
I was thinking 50-80 miles at the most--enough for us to get together but not so much that training is necessary to prepare. Everyone has a different definition of "epic". Friendly pace / no drop, no 30 minute stops =OR= ride at your own pace and specify regroup points. Hills if we can find good ones, but nothing that might precipitate orthopedic surgery.

What kind of ride would provide enough value to qualify a 4-hour drive? That's how far away I am, with a heavy right foot. You guys tell me. I was hoping either Spoke Wrench or another local might lay out an enjoyable route.
4 hours for me ride must include beer.(nm)funknuggets
Oct 28, 2003 10:17 AM
distance, etcFTMD
Oct 28, 2003 11:20 AM
I don't live in STL County, where the vast majority of St. Louis riders live. So, I'm not familiar with all of the classic routes in closer to the city. I could, however, put together a good route a little further west across the Missouri River in St. Charles County. Disclaimer: I've never organized a ride before so there would be some growing pains I imagine.
Sounds like you guys might not be from the areaBonked
Oct 28, 2003 10:56 AM
I grew up there but, unfortunately, don't live there anymore or I'd be in. Maybe you already know this, but if you are looking for hills, ride out west of the city. A good place to start is the Smoke House. Head out the outer road going west (which, by the way is pretty trafficy now, it was awesome a few years might want to start a little farther west), stay straight onto Olive which will turn into Eatherton. I liked turning right onto Centaur just before the railroad tracks and you have miles of great country highway with a few great hills (~1 milers) on the side streets.

Have fun!
Sounds great to mevindicator
Oct 28, 2003 12:03 PM
At the moment, my calendar's pretty clear both days, but the sooner we pick a date the easier it is for me to hold it.

I could put together some good St. Louis County routes, SW I'm sure could do the same for St. Charles County. Plenty of choices, and plenty of lightly travelled roads (occasionally linked with trafficy roads) with some good short but steep climbs.

Maybe this route will worksigepf94
Oct 28, 2003 1:52 PM
This is a very scenic route. Rode most of it a couple of weeks ago. It seems like a lot of turns but is really isn't. The whole route is about 50-60 miles. There's not a lot of traffic on most of it.

Meet at the Smoke House Rest. at 16806 Chesterfield Airport Rd. Chesterfield MO 63005.
West on Chesterfield Airport Rd to
Left on Olive Street Rd. West
Turns into N. Eatherton Rd.
Cross railroad tracks and up a very steep hill to Wild Horse Creek Road
Rt on Wild Horse Creek Road
Rt on Ossenfort Rd
Rt on St. Albans Rd. (Route T)
Rt on Saint Albans Rd (Very Nice Subdivision)
Rt on St. Albans Rd out of the subdivision
Lt on Route MM
Lt on 100
Lt on 109
Rt on Wild Horse Creek Rd.
Lt on Long Rd.
Rt on Chesterfield Airport Rd. (East)
Sig Ep where? And more routesvindicator
Oct 28, 2003 3:33 PM
I was thinking of roads in the same area, but trying to minimize 100 and 109. If we met at Marquette HS, we could do some variation of the weekly Tuesday night ride that starts there (Pond Rd. is closed, I'm told). It'd be fun to work a lap around the inside of Babler Park into the route as well. I'll look at the map tonight, but maybe Kehrs Mill to Strecker to Shepard to 109, down to Babler and a loop around, then back up 109 to Manchester, over to Woods to Melrose, then down Allenton to Six Flags and a regroup/refuel at the gas station there. Then back up Fox Creek to Bouquet to Ossenfort and WHCreek, to Eatherton and then up and over Orville back to Strecker and Kehrs Mill.

That might not be quite long enough for J, we could work some St. Albans into it as well, perhaps. But it should be hilly enough!

As for the Sig Ep thing, I was Wash. U. 1988. You?
Sig Ep where? And more routesshoalin
Oct 28, 2003 3:42 PM
Here is 30 miles loop.
The first starting from the I-70 Lake St. Louis Exit commuter lot out north through Josephville and St. Paul

0.0 - Left turn out of Lake St. Louis Exit Commuter Parking Lot onto Old North Outer 40. (traffic)
0.25 – Right turn onto Mexico Rd.
0.57 – Stay straight on Mexico Rd. through stop sign at Guthrie Rd.
2.78 – Right onto Josephville Rd.
5.00 – Pass St. Joseph Church on your right.
5.65 – Go straight across Hwy P onto Eisenbath Rd. (hilly)
7.61 – Eisenbath Rd veers right at Ridgecrest/Weston Woods.
8.76 – Left turn onto Freymuth Rd.
9.72 – Left turn on Hwy Y
12.34 – Right turn onto Flatwoods Rd.
14.50 – Right turn at top of hill onto Dyer Rd.
15.12 – Right turn onto Dyer Rd. Do NOT go straight.
18.04 – Right turn onto Vomund Rd.
18.25 – Turn left onto Hwy Y.
18.72 – Turn right onto St. Paul Rd.
19.22 – Pass Dog Praire Tavern on your left.
19.32 – Turn right onto onto St. Paul Rd at stop sign.
19.38 – Turn right onto Church Street at stop sign. St. Paul Church is straight ahead at stop sign. Church Street then veers left immediately.
21.48 – Turn right onto Freymuth Rd.
21.60 – Turn left onto Eisenbath Rd.
22.75 – Veer Left staying on Eisenbath Rd. (Ridgecrest/Weston Woods goes straight – Do NOT go straight).
24.71 – Go straight across Hwy P onto Josephville Rd.
25.36 – Pass St. Joseph Church again this time on your left.
27.58 – Turn left onto Mexico Rd.
29.77 – Stay straight on Mexico Rd. through stop sign at Guthrie Rd.
30.12 – Turn left onto Old North Outer 40.
30.37 – Finish at Commuter lot.
50-60ish plenty long; i'm not riding much road right now nmJS Haiku Shop
Oct 29, 2003 7:05 AM
Is there a definite date, time and place? nmJuanmoretime
Oct 29, 2003 9:09 AM
re: Nov 8 or Nov 15 in St. Louis? anyone want to gather? Spokey?Overhill
Oct 29, 2003 1:53 PM
I may try to make a St. Louis ride. The further north the better, but whatever you select will be ok, if not too long. 50 to 60 sounds pretty good. Let us know date and time. Thanks.
re: Nov 8 or Nov 15 in St. Louis? anyone want to gather? Spokey?shoalin
Oct 29, 2003 3:03 PM
Same here please let us know.
date/time/placeJS Haiku Shop
Oct 30, 2003 6:49 AM
i'm thinking saturday november 15 with a 10:30 AM **Rollout** (meaning get there at 10 AM). the smoke house restaurant mentioned in this thread seems to be a popular suggestion.

we will need someone to take charge of laying out and pre-riding the route to verify suitability for all types and fitness levels, to confirm roads open and passable, and to plot regroup points, conveniences stores, and distances between stops. said person would also cue the route, print cues, and make copies enough for all riders. i can do the printing & copies provided the exact cued turns, and probably also include a map. any volunteers for the coursemaking and pre-ride?

I will send an email to Dale Brigham and also to the address i have for Spoke Wrench. does anybody else have an address for Spoke Wrench?

thanks all.

I may be able to helpvindicator
Oct 30, 2003 8:29 AM

Where can I email you?

I don't have an address for Spokey, unfortunately, but hopefully if we wait until the 15th it will give him more time to re-appear. The 15th is also better for me given the work schedule I now have between now and the 8th.

I won't be able to pre-ride the entire route, but I'm already pretty familiar with most of the area we're talking about and I can plot it out and do some cues.

How "suitable for all fitness types" do you want it to be - or more accurately - how flat do you want it to be? The best riding roads in the area (scenic, low traffic) also happen to be pretty hilly, and some of the best routes throw some extra hills in for good measure. Nothing really long (all are basically a half mile or less, most much less, but they can be pretty steep). We're not talking about needing to walk the bike, but we are talking about cumulative leg burn.

If I get an idea on that, I can map out a couple of alternatives if someone else can pre-ride them (though as I said I'm fairly familiar with the areas I'd map out anyway, so unless they've recently closed or repaved the roads they should be OK and I know where the convenience stores are, etc.

All of this is contingent on me getting approval from the department of homeland security, which I'll try to do ASAP.

re: homeland securityJS Haiku Shop
Oct 30, 2003 8:48 AM
homeland security, LOL!

sounds like you guys don't have any hills that would preclude anyone alredy capable of riding 60 miles. i therefore would not worry about making the route necessarily flat. hills add flava, anyhow. mo' flava!

thanks for your help. let me know if your proposal is approved.

Oct 30, 2003 10:59 AM
There's a mom/daughter girl scout trip all day that day, so less'n I can come up with alternative arrangements for the other kiddos, which I'll work on, I'm out. Stay tuned ...
Thinkin' 'bout it....4bykn
Oct 30, 2003 1:45 PM
Although this is already into my seasonal no-exercise time. If I can get a few miles this weekend and next, I may also try to make it down. Would be cool to meet a few of the RBR regulars. As long as it is truly an "all-fitness-level" ride.