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Everyone in So. Cal.(12 posts)

Everyone in So. Cal.toomanybikes
Oct 27, 2003 7:05 PM
I have been watching the fires on CNN, best wishes to all of you down there.

We went through hell in BC this year with fires, at one point before were evacuated the smoke was so thick you couldn't see across the road -

we lost 250 houses in town here, town of 100,000, but no lives.

Best wishes and best of luck to all of you -stay safe, don't be heroes.
re: Everyone in So. Cal.Ye Olde Balde One
Oct 27, 2003 11:09 PM
Thanks Dude!

I drove a friend from LAX up to Simi, right past the Ronald Reagan Library which news reports was suggesting might be burned to the ground soon, it's still standing, and the land around it looked okay to me. No fire can be seen there either from the road past it, or anywhere near there. Up the other end of town though it's really bad. Highway 118 is cut still, but there are ways around it, especially if you know the canyon roads...now I know why I sweat up those damn climbs!

Simi Valley has a lot of ash falling, it's leaving a fine coating over everything, and the air is foul. Reminds me of those early 80's end of Nuke War movies.
Yup...ET_SoCal
Oct 28, 2003 7:47 AM
I even commuted in Simi this morning (East to West)
Not as bad as yesterday, seems the smoke is a bit higher this morning.
You can see plumbs (sp?) of smoke to the NorthEast and NorthWest, as well as the fire at the East (118 towards SFV)
Not sure about the West side, I think I burned/burning all the way to Somis (3/4 of the way to the Ocean) ...
Canyon roads didn't help last nightThe Walrus
Oct 28, 2003 11:25 AM
After the fire jumped the freeway at the top of the pass, Box Canyon and Woolsey/Blacks Canyons were closed in addition to the freeway and the pass road. It was either get stuck in the mob going out through T.O. or stay in the San Fernando Valley, and I decided to do the latter.

Toomanybikes--Thank you!
Canyon roads didn't help last nightYe Olde Balde One
Oct 28, 2003 11:55 AM
I drove from Westchester via PCH, Kanan Dume, 101, 23, Olsen Rd without problems in both directions last night, went up about 7pm, came down at 9:30pm.
Thank you. nmNo_sprint
Oct 28, 2003 9:23 AM
Is it safe to train...w/ that much smoke853
Oct 28, 2003 9:31 AM
in the air?
I'm just wondering if I'm doing more harm than good.
It's not to bad in my area, but there is still a layer of smoke everywhere.
no, it's not good to breathetarwheel
Oct 28, 2003 9:50 AM
I work in the air quality field. Smoke is unhealthy to breathe, particularly at the levels now in Southern California. Check your local air quality forecasts and/or indexes for particulate pollution levels. If levels are Code Red or higher, it's not a good idea for anyone to be doing prolonged outdoor exercise like cycling.
check this web site if you live in So Caltarwheel
Oct 28, 2003 9:58 AM
This EPA web site has links to information on health effects of smoke as well as air quality levels in various regions. Eg, I checked the link for San Diego and the air quality today is Code Red for particulate matter throughout the county -- bad conditions for exercising outdoors. In other words, you are probably doing yourself more harm than good by cycling or running in air this polluted.

http://www.epa.gov/airnow/
Is it safe to train...w/ that much smoketoomanybikes
Oct 28, 2003 9:59 AM
Best to stay off the roads and out of the smoke.

I was off for close to four weeks due to smoke. Ride the trainer in the house.

While you are at it - turnoff the air conditioners in your houses - it's just sucking smoke into the house for you.

There are people here whose houses didn't burn but they are still not back in their houses seven weeks later due to the smoke damage - a lot of it brought in by air conditioners. A lot of people didn't shut them off when evac'ed.
Should the hiker/hunter that started the SD fire go to jail?....Bruno S
Oct 28, 2003 12:22 PM
If it was up to me I would have him linched at Qualcomm stadium. Seriously, how much of the damage should the hiker be accountable for? He only got a citation. Should hikers and other trail users be allowed at all during fire season in open areas of SoCal (where communities have grown into the wilderness). Some people are very vocal against cyclists because they take up the road and would like the sport to disappear or confine cyclists to the sidewalks. How about sports like (hiking/camping/hunting/offroading) that can take down whole neighborhoods and a ecosystem?
It's quite a simple legal question...No_sprint
Oct 28, 2003 1:14 PM
In oversimplified terms, to be found guilty of many crimes, such as murder, robbery, the list goes on forever, and likely arson, though I'm not familiar with it, one must be found to have intent to commit that crime. Without it, he cannot be found guilty. In this case, it would appear there is no intent to commit arson. He can certainly be found guilty of other crimes though, many of which can indeed carry jail time.