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HEY, Check this eBay actn out, HILLARIOUS!!(16 posts)

HEY, Check this eBay actn out, HILLARIOUS!!cydswipe
Oct 26, 2003 6:42 AM
I know, I know, not cycling related. Holy crap I canb't stop laughing. My wife found this somehow and we are both about in tears from laughing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3146042998
Man, I love this guys honesty!
It gets better...post auction action here...Giant_Tom
Oct 26, 2003 7:57 AM
http://www.traderlist.com/DrunkenSailor-SteveKaye.html

Tom
That woman needs to get a life!jtolleson
Oct 27, 2003 7:43 AM
What is hilarious is that the very bidder who strongly suggested they were fraudulent and confronted him about it (thus getting her ID blocked from bidding) then switched IDs, won the auction to the tune of $900, and is now COMPLAINING!

She got exactly what she predicted, and NOW she is playing the victim.

Go figure.
I think it was a scam!weekendrider
Oct 26, 2003 9:47 AM
Look at what this guy is buying and selling in his previous auctions. He bought a disney patch/pin for $125, and sold an Andy Gibbs collectible bubble gum poster. He's a collector, and knew all about beanie babies. Then comes up with that story so he wouldn't have to give any more info, or send more detailed pictures of his bad fakes.
maybe but...DaveG
Oct 26, 2003 10:07 AM
This was posted a few days ago and I got a good laugh over it. The seller never claimed these were authentic and pretty did everything to discourage buyers from dropping big $$ on these. For someone to spend $900 on these assuming they were genuine without getting some type of authentication seems foolish. I think the buyer failed to follow the Golden Rule of ebay - buyer beware
EXACTLY!!clintb
Oct 26, 2003 10:13 AM
What's the saying? Caveat Emptor, right? The guy even started the bidding at $10 w/no reserve and the fools still went nuts. If you want genuine collectibles, look for thing that have been pre-authenticated or take your chances otherwise.

$860 for beanie babies?! What a waste of some good bike parts money.
Or not?filtersweep
Oct 26, 2003 10:57 AM
I don't know that 'buyer beware' necessarily covers merchandise that is simply illegal to sell on ebay in the first place: counterfeit items.

If I were to sell a fake Colnago with all the similar caveats and YOU purchased it (still at a bargain price), might there still be a problem?

The seller described them as "Beanie Babies." The seller goes out of his way to steer potential buyers into believing they are real:

"I understand from a friends wife that people are afraid to get fakes. FAKES? Fake plush toys? I was amazed. I thought people forged money, not childrens toys. Well I can only say, that 99% of these goofy toys were bought with my money, from eiter the local Hallmark Store, or one of the dozen or so Southern Craft/ collectibles stores I had to go to on a weekly basis buying these ridiculos toys years ago. "

This certainly implies they were obtained from legitimate sources.
Or not?DaveG
Oct 26, 2003 1:15 PM
I'm not defending the seller, but I don't think the buyer exercised good judgement. The buyer asked about the authenticity and the seller refused to respond and told them not to bid. Rather than walk away immediately the buyer drops $900. Not sure if the whole thing was a scam or not but getting burned was avoidable.
Or not?filtersweep
Oct 26, 2003 2:20 PM
OK- Beanie Babies aside, I think pretty much all "collectibles" are a dubious investment. I fully agree that all the red flags were in place- and the seller arguably put them there. Judgment-wise, the buyer should have been able to at least read between the line... but from a legal standpoint, I still feel the seller has an obligation.
EXACTLY!!weekendrider
Oct 26, 2003 11:33 AM
If he had actually bought them in a store he would think they were authentic not fakes.

If he thought they were authentic he would have been willing to post more pictures and answer questions. Prove the critters are real = more money = more tools and beer.

I think he knew which ones were suppose to be valuable before the auction started, and he knew his were fakes!
Is the buyer gullable or clever?Chainstay
Oct 26, 2003 12:44 PM
I admire the clever way he set it up but I'm amazed that someone would have been so gullable to have paid that much. What is the high end of the scale for these? Would someone actually pay more than 10% market value on the chance that these are legit?

On the other hand maybe the buyer figures that they would have easy recourse if they were fakes and a bargain if they weren't? Maybe keeping fakes off e-bay is one way collectors can keep the market value up.
Read the buyers feedback....Dave Hickey
Oct 26, 2003 3:38 PM
The negative comment is one of the worst I've seen...
Two real artists plying their trades53T
Oct 27, 2003 12:37 PM
Yes, the negative is very strongly worded, but the seller in that case represented teeny babies for Beanie Babies (FYI, Teenies are given away at McDonalds with a happy meal) (hey, I've got kids!)

My take: The seller is a very experirnced collectable trader, but not very scrupulous. He set out to play dumb on this auction with the hope that other true collectors would run up the price. The buyer, on the other hand, is also a very knowlegeble collector, not just in item knowlege, but in trader knowlege. She knows the laws and the tools (like fair traider, etc.) She has all her bases covered, i.e. if the high-$ benies were real, she scores big by winning at $900, if they are fake, she demands a refund under ebay rules, or US laws.

She made one big mistake, possession is 10/10ths of the law. He has her money and it is not likely that he will return it. He has no scruples, and will not part with that cash unless the feds, or Ty's lawyers knock on his door.

Like Jan and Lance, it is fun to watch two pros go at it!
I think I've seen this scam beforevindicator
Oct 26, 2003 5:52 PM
Someone made a very similar post on a wine board a few years ago - "check this out, it's hilarious" and this whole thing, right down to the traderlist thing, sounds very familiar. I can't remember all the details, but this one is obviously too recent to just be the same thing. I think someone's re-trying an old scam that must have worked well the first time.

Then again, this is all from memory...
If you drop $900 on beanie babiesstriker
Oct 27, 2003 3:30 AM
you deserve to be defrauded. Friggine stuffed animals made in China.

get over it
Yep, stuffed animals, they need their head checked..nmafrican
Oct 27, 2003 6:30 PM