|Is ebay becoming bike scambay sadly?||marcoxxx|
Oct 23, 2003 5:19 AM
|I know there are thousands of bikes and sellers on ebay at any point in time, but at any point in time you can spot any number of scams going down. I also wonder how many bidders are getting burned inspite of obivious scams or not so obivious? ebay too big to care i assume now too.
|Thats why I wish this new auction site.....||abicirider|
Oct 23, 2003 5:42 AM
|would get its feet off the ground I hope it makes it I bidded on a few items from the new site got great price seller was great no problem.
Ebay is going to back the sellers thats how they make their money is off the sellers insertion fees final % fee's that don't make money off the buyers so why should they care it's a shame.
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!
|re: you are correct||hudsonite|
Oct 23, 2003 5:47 AM
|Ebay has way too many scams going on at any point in time. Earlier this year I was bidding on a number of bikes. Found at least 6 in one day that were scams. Sent an e-mail to ebay and reported very blatant scams. The wrote me back and told me that ebay was safe and the auctions were good.
Well it turned out they were scams and with ebay's attitude towards scams being so pathetic, I stopped looking at ebay. Too many risks.
It really is too bad. Ebay has a great business model and the ebay market is one of the best in world. I just wish they took more responsibility for weeding out the good and bad buyers/sellers. On low value items they cover you pretty good. But if you buy an expensive bike, you are on your own.
Oct 23, 2003 7:21 AM
|i am sure due to the cost involved and the way their revenue is generated IT IS AGANIST EBAY'S BEST INTEREST TO BE THAT CONCERNED and try to stop scammers.
I am not the attorney, but I would think ebay has some liability and responsibility NOT to promote or allow outright scams. If I were them, ebay, I would be on the lookout for a class action law suit in the making here.
|The crooks go after the big ticket items||bimini|
Oct 23, 2003 6:25 AM
|Unfortunately, high end road bicycles are one of those big ticket items. Also, high end electronic such as plasma TV's etc. attract the scam artist.
They are after the quick kill with the big payoff. I would be very carefull of any purchase over $500.
However, on lower ticket items I would bet 99.99% of the autions are safe. Still, remember "if it's too good to be true..." and if it doesn't smell right don't bid. Plenty of good items for a good price from rebutable sellers.
|The crooks go after the big ticket items||jtolleson|
Oct 23, 2003 6:47 AM
|Yep. I've had pretty good luck just using good instincts, and I've made two eBay purchases that were over $2000. Most of mine are under $100, though (probably 60 transactions in the last four years). Reading feedback helps, and having an email exchange with the vendor of any high end item. I don't deal with foreign sellers, don't buy from anyone who only takes western union, and rely on a combination of instincts and luck I suppose.|
Oct 23, 2003 7:13 AM
|In general I am very cautious on Ebay and keep my purchases to under 100$. I feel you are better off with the service at an LBS. You also get credit card protection. I am not sure that you get the same protections through paypal. I have had some really bad experiences with online vendors. You have to CYA.|
Oct 23, 2003 8:46 AM
|I've purchased and bought big ticket items. Several were lucky enough to be local trasnactions so we physically met and exchanged.
Also, don't forget ebay DOES offer an Escrow option. If you're really worried you can use it.
|be careful of Escrow||bimini|
Oct 23, 2003 9:17 AM
|Connecting to the Escrow service via ebay is probably okay. Connecting to an Escrow service via the buyer is NOT okay. Before using an EScrow service check them out independently. You need to tell the seller which Escrow service you intend to use. If they balk, run away!
The crooks have gotten very good about creating bogus web sites for escrow services and even web sites that look identical to ebays.
Another problem with escrow is that the sevice can verify that yes the seller sent an item but they would know very little about condition or if the item was as advertised. There is no protection that way.
|Escrow and condition of shipped item||Scot_Gore|
Oct 23, 2003 11:11 AM
|I bought a bike via this sites classified ads and used an escrow service to exchange the money. When I signed up I picked a window of time (48 hours in my case) to examine the bike. If I said nothing then the escrow service released my money 48 hours after delivery. This assured me plenty of time to check out the item. If the item was damaged and I didn't want it anymore, then I had to ship it back to the seller and they kept my money until he got it back.
In my case, It took me less than a day to check the bike and the seller had their money about 12 hours after it landed on my doorstep.