|Opinions on the Surly Cross-Check and Salsa La Cruz||lexington476|
Oct 22, 2003 6:35 AM
|Does anyone 'cross race (or just ride) a Surly Cross-Check (whole bike) and/or Salsa La Cruz (frame)? I am looking at both. What do you think of them? Good parts, bad parts.|
|yes||JS Haiku Shop|
Oct 22, 2003 6:56 AM
|cross-check purchased last july/august. rode it through the winter, brevets, etc.--it was comfy on rides up to 250 miles. cross-raced it last year, plan to do the same this year. it was purchased from excelsports.com for ~$1200 with ultegra triple/xt rear der and 11-32 cassette, and the rest from their standard 'cross kit.
bad? paint job was clear-coated THEN decal kit was applied. decals chipping off. not a big deal. other than that, it's a steel frame, so it has to be well maintained to ward off rust, particularly if 'cross-racing or riding in poor weather conditions and salty roads. last thing, it's a tad heavy compared to some others. not a concern for me.
good? everything else. it's made to be a "do it all" frame. very versatile. extremely comfortable on the road and over long distances. not sure if that's geometry or frame material or something else. very resilient frame; can take a beating. inexpensive. and, the customer service (if you need any) is top-notch. i've dealt with the surly guys a few times by e-mail, and they're great.
plus, their cards say "serious drinkers with a biking problem" or something like that. i know they're QBP now, but still seem pretty down to earth. i rode my steamroller for a year before buying the cross-check, if that tells you anything.
sorry no info on the salsa, other than i think salsa is also owned by QBP (could be wrong).
happy to answer any specific questions. good luck.
|Cross-Check rider here...||biknben|
Oct 22, 2003 7:03 AM
|I bought a frame/fork for $350. I built it up as a commuter FG/SS. It's an extremely versitile frame.
When compared to other frames, it is awesome for nothing but it is pretty good for anything. What I mean is, it's not a good track frame or Cross frame, but it can do either one. It can handle gears or no gears, wide or skinny tires, canti brakes or long reach calipers. Throw some fenders on there if you want. It's got huge clearance.
IMO, it's the ultimate road beater frame.
I rode it into work this morning in the rain.
|I agree... good utilitarian frame||russw19|
Oct 22, 2003 8:06 AM
|It's a good frame for a lot of different things, yet excels at nothing. But that's not a bad thing. For as versitile as it is, it's still a pretty nice riding bike.
Oh, and the Salsa frame is nicer for cross racing. But it's a lot more expensive. It's built with True Temper OX Platinum tubing. I can get the Surly for about $320, but the Salsa is more like $650. You can also get the Las Cruces frame which is a Scandium frame for about $500 but that's just a frame, no fork. If you can't find a lower price, I may be able to help you out. Another frame you should consider is the Interloc CX Crossfire. It's a really nice cross frame. Reynolds 853 and sells for about $475 (frame only) or $600 with a carbon cross fork.