|Aero Wheelset for training?||Oshboro|
Oct 21, 2003 5:30 PM
|Since we're all thinking about top speed, I'm wondering with what to replace my 32-spoke Mavic Open Pro CD wheels (D/A hubs). I ride some TTs but I'm not competitive and definitely not a race-day-only wheelset kind of guy. I'd like something that's a step up, but that won't be too delicate for training. Not a lot of cross winds where I ride, so I can go with a deep rim, but I ride a Cannondale R600 frame and I don't want to make the ride much stiffer. I'm not against switching to tubulars. Any suggestions?|
|lots of options...||OffTheBack|
Oct 22, 2003 3:21 AM
|The Mavic Cosmic Elites are pretty aero, but they're heavy. Rolf Vector Pros are aero, strong, and lighter than the CEs, and you can usually find them on eBay for around $300. People seem to really like handbuilts from Dave at Speed Dream, he does an aero set for about $500 custom to your specs.|
|Here's one option,,||bicycle268|
Oct 22, 2003 3:34 AM
|After a series of mishaps with a couple other sets of wheels I was forced to spend 90% of my riding time on a pair of Am Classic 420's. I felt like I was wasting the usable life of my set but they've held up without a problem. I've logged about 3500 miles on a set (standard build). Quiet, aero true and light. I've crashed on them twice (once was a real ouch fest) with no worries. The drawbacks? Price and reputation. $700 is a bit of a stretch from a set of D/A Open Pro's. In addition, some have had some bad experiences with The AM-Classic rear hub...but none here. Just my 2 cents..|
Oct 22, 2003 6:55 AM
|I am on shamals and they are fine. I only have about 2000 miles on them but nary a prob.|
|Check Ebay for AL aero wheels.||bimini|
Oct 22, 2003 7:03 AM
|Look for a set of Alluminum Aero rims with SS spokes or Alluminum rims with Carbon or plastic aero farings with SS spokes. These are usally stiffer and heavier, but durable and aero.
Stay away from the all carbon aero sets for every day use. These sets are not known for their longevity or durability and have been known to "explode" on impact. Worth the risk if you want to win a race. Not worth the risk and cost IMO if you just want to go fast and impress your friends, plus the more you use them, the more fatique and just with more use you are increassing your risks for a problem.
From what I have read and from discussions on this board you need at least a 50mm depth to be truely aero. I run 40mm Campy Shamals for my race wheels, I believe they are somewhat aero and help, but I have no proof. Many of the new botique wheels chaim to be semiaero, but from what I have read don't add any significant aero advantage (speed)
Even with top of the line true aero wheels you speed gains are not huge, maybe 1/2 to 1 MPH depending on the wheel set and the riders abilities. You can get a much larger advantage with aero bars and good aero position on the bike, the drag of the rider is 10-15 times as great as the drag of the wheels.
|Look at the Ritchey WCS or Pro wheels too.||MShaw|
Oct 22, 2003 8:08 AM
|I like my Pro wheelset. Aero enough to be fast, but light enough to accelerate out of corners. Cheap enough that if I crash, I'm not out $300 for a new rim.
If you're TT-ing, stick with Shamals, the 16 spoke Cosmics, 404s/Cane Creeks, etc. If you go over to google and search for Kraig Willet's aero wheel article (from www.bike.com) you'll have the start of an idea which wheels are the fastest. Sheldon Brown's site has a link to Damon Rinard's pages, there's more info there too.
In TTs and anything over 20mph or so, aero beats light every time.