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Real or fake?(16 posts)

Real or fake?feathers mcgraw
Oct 20, 2003 4:37 AM
Not what you think. Check out Seven's new tri-bike. I think that downtube's a lousy photoshop job. Even if it's real it looks like a flat fairing added to the back of a round tube. Not exactly aero, more of a capitulation to market demands. So what do you think? Is it real?
here's the photofeathers mcgraw
Oct 20, 2003 4:40 AM
here's the photomackgoo
Oct 20, 2003 5:46 AM
Every one knows that's a Litespeed, just ask em.
re: Realteoteoteo
Oct 20, 2003 5:42 AM
Downtube can be produced that way by taking sheet ti and shaping--then tack weld to join the edge. After the weld is cleaned and you'd never know it's welded. I think it's called a rolled tube.

I don't know if this is the case for the Seven but in the past Litespeed used the rolled tube method for their shaped 6/4 tubes.
re: Realfeathers mcgraw
Oct 20, 2003 6:04 AM
The reasons I think it's fake are: The top of the down tube looks matte, while the bottom looks glossy. The joint at the head tube doesn't look welded. The crankset looks like it's silhouetted against the downtube. The graphics don't look like they're actually on the tube (compare it to the top tube). I don't doubt they can produce such a tube, I just think they rushed an image out before having the real thing.
it looks fake...and ugly (nm)ColnagoFE
Oct 20, 2003 7:18 AM
also, look at the chain where it meets the front chainring.rufus
Oct 20, 2003 8:36 AM
it looks like it's coming in straight from the rear cluster, passing through the front derailleur, then it looks like it turns up sharply to meet the front chainring.

it may be a real bike, but it does look like they photoshopped what it will look like, rather than photographed an actual model.
yup; look at it blown up:DougSloan
Oct 20, 2003 9:58 AM
dastardly!feathers mcgraw
Oct 20, 2003 10:42 AM
Does that mean they pasted in the crankset as well? They probably blew it up a tiny bit so it would totally cover the existing crankset, which would explain why it's too wide for the chain line. Such a cheesy move for an otherwise class outfit.
It's a fake, maybe they are testing the waters.bimini
Oct 20, 2003 10:51 AM
It has the look of a computer generated bike from a Cadd package like solidworks. It is an exact 3D model with shading etc, but all the reflections are too consistent.

It is common to start marketing a product before it is fully designed and in production. It sets up a buzz in the industry in anticipation of the product release and it allows the manufacturer to "test" the product as to marketability. If you get a lot of negative feedback, (like the, "It's ugly" above) they may pull the plug on the product release. If they get a lot of possitive feedback they move forward.

I have to agree, It's Ugly.
Oct 20, 2003 7:56 AM
This is the exact picture from their 2004 catalog, so they must be offering it. I was up there on Friday taking a tour of thier fabrication shop and they gave me the new catalog. Sadly, no sign of this bike in their "showroom" (and I use that term very loosely). Although they did have the new Elium setup and ready to test ride. Too bad the bike was a 55cm, and I ride a 63.
re: Real or fake?swvegg
Oct 20, 2003 12:07 PM
Downtube looks way too big to be UCI legal.
ergo 'triathlon' bike. nm.Steve_0
Oct 20, 2003 12:14 PM
re: Real or fake?Akirasho
Oct 20, 2003 12:25 PM
... yepper, I don't remember the exact ratio, but the chord seems too broad to be UCI legal...

Of course, there's no reason to believe that it has to be (It is probably ITU legal)... I guess time will tell (lovin' my Cervelo P2K).

Be the bike.
re: Real or fake?Steve_0
Oct 20, 2003 12:33 PM
elite and junior only - main triangle design of 3 straight or tapered tubes; may be bround, oval, flat, teardrop or otherwise.
Very real.... See the pictChicago_Steve
Oct 20, 2003 12:40 PM
Take a look at an Interbike pict