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OK, time to get serious.(9 posts)
|OK, time to get serious.||Mr Nick|
Oct 19, 2003 2:27 PM
|I talked to the guy who originally fit my bike in May and told him about my problems and that maybe I should try another shop. He insisted that he would do what ever it took to get my fit right and that he would not charge me. So I think I am going to give the guy another shot because I really like the shop and they always give me great deals.
So while he is re-fitting me I am going to be trying new saddles and use the money I saved on that instead of the pro fit. I have decided that I want to try a flatter saddle as compared to my Selle Italia Genuine Gel Prolink, and something a little narrower. The reason is that on my current saddle I get quite a bit of numbness in the groin and my bike shorts are wearing out on the inside my thighs fairly quickly.
I am thinking of trying a Selle Italia Flight, a SLK and an SLR since they all seem like narrow, flat saddles. I was also thinking about the Turbomatic 4 because so many people like, but I can't find anything out about the shape or flatness of the saddle.
I want this saddle to be good for centuries because that is my new goal. I did 45 miles yesterday and couldn't feel my boys so I know my current saddle isn't the one. I am going to do a 50 miler in Tucson next weekend so hopefully I'll have something new by then.
If you have any other suggestions on saddles to try, let me know.
|re: OK, time to get serious.||mdooley0|
Oct 19, 2003 2:56 PM
|Ok Mr. Nick, I've tried selle italia Flight (numbness), Trans Am (with cut out), SLR gel (cut out), I'm back to the trans am again. The cut out saddles work better for me, but my next stop is the Fizik saddle and soon cause my Trans am is shot.............md|
|Flite is narrow...||The The|
Oct 19, 2003 3:22 PM
|I switched from a Selle Italia XO TransAm to a Flite Ti TransAm because I wanted something narrow. The XO was too soft and flexy, and too wide for me as I could feel that I was getting some chafing from the edges.
A switch to the Flite TransAm retained the cutout, and also gave me a noticeably narrower saddle with a longer nose section. My initial observation is that it is harder and will take some getting use to, but overall the flat, narrow shape is more appropriate for me.
The Prolink is wider than the flite, so if you need something narrower, this may be a good choice. Consider the gel versions if you don't want a hard saddle.
|First things first||Birddog|
Oct 19, 2003 3:37 PM
|If you haven't already done so, make sure the saddle is either level or slightly nose up. A lot of saddle problems are the result of improper tilt/setup, and not necessarilly the saddle itself. You might also try a slight offset; aim the saddle a little left or right of center, depending on which way "you dress".
|Careful with this advice||Kerry Irons|
Oct 19, 2003 5:01 PM
|For a normal racing saddle, the range of adjustment for most people is between the nose horizontal (raised butt) and the nose level with the butt. If this you call this latter position "nose up" then fine. However, I have seen some incredible saddle positions where I can't understand how they can be comfortable due to the nose being tilted up. IME, when you sit properly with your sit bones perched on the butt of the saddle, you don't get any pressure from the nose of the saddle and you don't get excessive pressure on the arms/hands. It seems to me that a lot of people sit too far forward on the saddle and so their sit bones are not taking the weight, resulting in both unpleasant pressure and a sliding forward feeling.|
Oct 20, 2003 6:09 AM
|IME the trick is finding the spot where it feels kind of like being a wedge between the bars and the saddle. Some of the support comes from forward pressure against the bars and backward pressure against the saddle. I think that's why I like riding on a saddle with an unusually high back and my butt back against it.|
|I like the SLK||DERICK|
Oct 19, 2003 5:19 PM
|I've tried the Flite and SLR. They were both torture on my perenial area. That seems to be my problem with most saddles. I even put about 150 miles on a Fizik Allante and had to take it off because it bothered my perenial area. I,ve tried a variety of cut out saddles with similar results.
With the SLK I have no discomfort from my perenial. The flexy design absorbs a lot of vibration also.
|Here's another choice that is narrow and flat||Fez|
Oct 20, 2003 5:44 AM
|San Marco Era or Era K.
They are narrow and they are flat. Lighter weight than most Flites, but not nearly as minimalist or extreme as the SLR.
I have tried pretty much all the saddles out there, and am happiest with the Era. Like you, I was looking for narrow and flat.
|re: OK, time to get serious.||MShaw|
Oct 20, 2003 9:15 AM
|The problem is that we don't know how your arse is going to react to any of the saddles above. Some guys love the Flite, some hate it. Some love saddleX, some hate it, etc.
Eras are flat. I have one on my cross bike. I tried it on the road and found that it was kind of a butt basher. The new Era with a little more padding may be the way to go.
I have had several Flites, and more recently Flite Gels. They seem to be the shape that works for me, but YMMV. The biggest difference between the Flites and the Gel version is that on 3+ hour rides, my arse doesn't ache quite as much on the Gel.
I've ridden a Turbomatic and liked it. I'm not sure why I changed except for the weight thing. (Not that I can't stand to lose a few pounds around the middle vs. a few grams on the saddle!)
I have friends that like the Fizik saddles. I haven't ever ridden one, so can't comment on their feel.
Not being able to "feel the boys" could be a few different things. Saddle too high, nose of the saddle tilted too high, too much padding, etc. Let us know what happens after the new fit session.