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Paceline etiquette question(9 posts)

Paceline etiquette questionNatC
Oct 18, 2003 4:36 AM
When you're riding down the right shoulder of the road with others in a paceline, does the lead rider pull off to the left and drift back to the end of the line, or does a tailing rider come around the lead rider's left to take his or her turn at the front? Or something else? Since I usually ride alone I haven't had to worry about this issue much, but I figure it's something I should know.
You had it right the first time...biknben
Oct 18, 2003 5:08 AM
Riders drop back after taking a "pull" at the front.

Take a look here for a better explaination: http://www.mssports.com/JMC/pdf/group_basics.pdf
re: Paceline etiquette questionBill B
Oct 18, 2003 5:11 AM
Every group has it's own customs, sit in and watch what the others do. Ideally the rider coming off the front will drop back on the leeward side of the line to get that little bit of extra rest but sometimes a group will have decided to have the falling back rider fall back along the right side to be protected from traffic but it has been my experience in the USA that the leader always falls back along the left side of the line.
drift back to the endgala7516
Oct 18, 2003 5:11 AM
I think that the lead rider should have the sense to pull off and take a break when the speed declines or he is tired.
It takes too much energy to move to the front of a fast moving paceline.
Thanks guys...NatC
Oct 18, 2003 5:30 AM
and thanks for the link biknben. I didn't understand what this means though:

"If the group is traveling too fast, sit on the back. When the front rider pulls off and moves to the back of the group, move to the left so you are on his wheel and allow him to move in behind the rider in front of you. An advance verbal warning giving them plenty of time to react is helpful. Only do this at the back of the group, as riders behind you may want to pull through and the rider moving to the back probably wants as much rest as possible."
it means.....rufus
Oct 18, 2003 6:11 AM
if the paceline is moving too fast for you to take a regular pull, then stay at the back in the very last position. when the guy doing the pull drops back, he would usually attach himself at the end of the line, behind you. in this case, you would move out a bit onto his line, and rop back yourself, allowing him to hook up to the wheel in front of you, and you to remain at the very tail. letting him know what your intentions are helps to prevent confusion or a possible crash. this way, everyone gets to do their pull at the front, while you remain at the very back.

if you were to do this with riders behind you in the paceline, those riders would never get rotated to the front to do a pull of their own. that's why you should be at the very back of the paceline if you are just going to sit in, and can't take a pull. also, when the pulling rider drops to the very end of the paceline, that affords him more time to sit in and rest before he would get rotated to the front again to take another pull.
Makes sense. Thanks. nmNatC
Oct 18, 2003 6:13 AM
That's called Sh!thooking.MShaw
Oct 20, 2003 9:51 AM
I'm good at it 'cause I've always ridden with guys that are seriously faster than I am. As long as the guys know that you aren't going to interfere, they usually don't have a problem with it.

Sh!thooking is a good way to get recovered enough to take another few turns in the line. Just make sure that the guy rotating off the recovery line knows that you're coming in to the paceline again! I usually yell something like I'm in! I'm in! to let them know. When pulling back out, do the opposite.

If you start really screwing with the flow of the paceline, or if you decide to get cheeky and sprint around them at the end of the ride, problems start...

Mike
IMHE; pulling off windward eases a deceleration to the back...Spunout
Oct 18, 2003 7:15 AM
because you need to go a bit slower, so best to do this on the windy side (if in crosswinds). The riders coming up to the front are more protected for their turn.

In a single line, we usually pull off to the left. Best to communicate to keep everyone on the same page.