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Any RBR's have an experience like this, I bet not many......(23 posts)

Any RBR's have an experience like this, I bet not many......abicirider
Oct 14, 2003 3:52 AM
who would have ever thought, anyways finishing up my 3hr 30min ride yesterday, I had less than 1.5k left, making the last big push before the last hill then home, so I'm doing about 24-26mph the road is your typical North Carolina junk road no shoulder at all one lane each way and the speed limit is 55mph. I notice in the distance ahead a group of kids screwing around on the opposite side of the street a couple of them are on BMX bikes riding in the middle of the street just screwing around. I continue on my way, down in the drops pushing hard toward that last hill. I'm closing in on the group of kids now. The next thing I know here comes one of the kids on a bmx bike from the opposite side of the street coming right at me not looking at all I have no time to react once so ever as I'm doing about 25mph. The kid broadsides me with full force. I'm saying what the hell. I don't know how but I was able to stay upright.(guess all the years of crit racing and bumping paid off) I look back and the kid about 12-13 years old is laying flat on his face in the middle of the street no helmet nada. I stop and go back he gets up out of the street, If a car would have been coming he would have been killed in an instant. I'm peeded off now I tell the kid show me where you live, so we go to his house, here is the real kicker I tell his parents what happened and that they could have lost their son very easily had a car been coming, They said to me well its your fault you have no right or reason to be riding your bike out on the street you are not a car and to stay off "our F--king roads or we will run you off them" I told them a couple of words very nicely and just saved my breath and left. Just your typical NC person pure idiot mentality.
Anyways just wanted to share this experience who would have ever thought of being taken out by a kid on a bmx bike geez.
Just a thought note if anyone is thinking about moving to NC really stop and think twice, three, four times, this is just a terrible place to live the people, economy, everything about NC is BS I can't think of one good thing to say about NC except I only have a couple of months left here thank goodness.
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!
Ray Still
Mooresville, NC
Keep telling yourself....biknben
Oct 14, 2003 4:18 AM
..."I'll be outta here soon."

You're relocating to Cali, right? Sorry, I can't remember. Just think how great the riding is going to be. I'd have perma-grin.

Based on your description of NC, Baghdad doesn't seem like such a bad place.'s sooo bad...marcoxxx
Oct 14, 2003 8:27 AM
the hills and climbs are demanding and darn you can't ride due to all these kids on bmx bikes running over you all the time...gasp it just happened to me last night....

i guess i will go ride Beech Mtn, Blue Ridge Pkwy or something less dangerous

fyi..this guy lives and rides in the epi-center for nascar and factory row..what do you expect?
could of happened anywheretarwheel
Oct 14, 2003 4:30 AM
Sorry to hear about your experience. I always slow down when I see kids out playing like that -- it's sort of like riding on a multi-use trail.

I'll have to disagree with your assessment of North Carolina. I've lived here 17 years and like the climate, terrain and people. I've lived all over the country and don't encounter any more problems with traffic or idiot drivers here than anywhere else. Maybe it's different where I live, in the Triangle (Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill), but I seldom get harrassed while cycling. In fact, it's just as likely that someone will yell something like "Go Lance." Maybe there's a different cycling culture here than in Mooresville. There a tons of lightly traveled rural roads near the Triangle, once you get away from the development.

Yes, the economy does suck right now, but it does everywhere.
Sorry about your experience with those kids....bent_spoke
Oct 14, 2003 6:23 AM
I've never ridden in NC,but I've always enjoyed visiting as the people always seemed real nice....hopefully you'll find more of these during the rest of your stay.

I've seen other things on the board where kids seem to have no regard for others & have caused some trouble. It's good to hear that you weren't hurt.
Oct 14, 2003 4:37 AM
Kids screwing around on bikes oblivious to what's happening around them is very normal. That's what 12-13 year olds do. An experienced adult cyclist coming in close proximity without slowing up and being very careful is not using his noggin' IMO. With kids that age you have to think for both you and them. The parents are a-holes.

Sorry you've had such a bad time in NC. Quite different from my experience.
No good deed goes unpunished-filtersweep
Oct 14, 2003 5:04 AM
Sure, blame the road biker... I'm sure someone who loved the kids dearly told the kids to "go play out in the street" hoping there would be one less mouth to feed.

Most kids are BMX bikes are complete idiots and are very unpredictable- getting broadsided on a TWO-WAY street (which is the most directions a street can run anway- this wasn't an intersection) and it can hardly be the roadbike's fault. Remember, this is a road with a 55 mph limit... not your sleepy residential street.

If you slow down at EVERY possible "hazard" you might as well stay on a trainer indoors.

The problem developed when the helpful adult mentioned that the kid could have been seriously injured. It apparently was perceived as being challenging to their parenting skills... remember, if no bikes are to be on the road, what were the kids doing there.
Oct 14, 2003 6:16 AM
I read no inference to blame; Rather, good advice on how best to avoid such accidents.

Interesting you decided to blame the parents, and even created a little story about how they came to be in the street.
Humor impaired, are we?filtersweep
Oct 14, 2003 8:53 AM
Did you read my post? Did you read the original post?

The cyclist went to the kid's home and "They said to me well its your fault you have no right or reason to be riding your bike out on the street you are not a car and to stay off "our F--king roads or we will run you off them"

Good advice? To stay off the road? Looks like someone is assigning a bit of blame.

My point is if you want to assign blame, and there are such vividly terrible parents involved, and the double standard they expouse... oh well, I've already wasted too much time spelling this one out when it is apparent it has gone over your head.
...apparently it is over my headSteve_0
Oct 14, 2003 11:16 AM
as your post was more humorless than humorous.

FWIW - MY point was that you criticized one poster for assigning blame (which he didnt), and continued to assign blame without knowing the parents, the whole story, or perhaps the true story.


my thoughts exactly;Steve_0
Oct 14, 2003 6:06 AM
kids will be kids; I'd rather yield my 'right of way' to avoid injuring a child.
Couple thoughtsKristin
Oct 14, 2003 5:17 AM
First, why were you riding on that road? Is it lightly traveled? We have heavy travel roads near me that fit that decsriptions and I would never ride on them. Sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Unless, of course, its rare to see a car on that road.

Second, what the kids parents said was laughable. Didn't their son ride his BMX into the road in order to hit you? So you're not allowed on the street but he is? And it is a fine parent indeed, who will allow their flesh and blood to play BMX on a shoulderless, 55MPH highway with no helmet.
re: Any RBR's have an experience like this, I bet not many......Saddle_Sore
Oct 14, 2003 5:32 AM
Although living in the UK your story has many parallels with experiences I have had whilst riding. There are always snotty-nosed little arsewipes on bikes who insist on pratting around in the roads, trying to knock you off (intentionally or otherwise). You try and remonstrate with them and you just get abuse, you try and remonstrate with their parents and you get even more abuse (how could their little darling possibly be in the wrong?).

I'm all for youngsters starting out and learning to have fun on bikes. The problem is that quite a few of them around here seem to think it's fun to get in the way of other people on their bikes.

Anyways, you are lucky that one of those little gits didn't pull his daddy's Magnum revolver out and blast you in the ass for your trouble!
If you were as rude and insulting to those parents as you...litespeedchick
Oct 14, 2003 6:37 AM
are to your Carolina neighbors on this board, then I'm not surprised at the response you got.

Gosh, we'll miss you.
Amen. That NC-sucks schtick got old quite some time ago.gf99
Oct 14, 2003 6:52 AM
I tell it as I see it if that is a problem don't read post(nm)abicirider
Oct 14, 2003 7:11 AM
i read to hear your latest negative NC bashingmarcoxxx
Oct 14, 2003 8:48 AM
i always have the opposite experiences and opinions about riding in NC and it appears most others do too. Where the heck are you riding man?

m more safe out there...!marcoxxx
Oct 14, 2003 8:17 AM
i live in the state that you so bemoan man, and you are obiviously riding and living in a pretty rough area(your fault). if i were you and where you ride, i would be more "safe out on the roads" like you say. Kids are kids and looks like the adult may have needed to have paid more attention...imho. Also parents allowing their kid to play on 55mph Hwy can't be that swift, and i would expect their attitude too.

i find for the most part the exact opposite..not all NCers are morons or idiots like you seem to always say(taking it personal here)....and actually NC, especially the western and piedmont part where i live, is great area for road and mtn biking. I am guessing but you must be a transplant from shangla(sp)?

glad no one was hurt,
I see a lot of irresponsible riding ...KeeponTrekkin
Oct 14, 2003 8:30 AM
especially from kids both older and younger and especially on the "city residential" section of my bike commute. They ride on the wrong side. They cut accross the street. They street's their playground on those bikes. They're out working off high levels of testosterone. They don't pay attention and they don't care about me. I just don't trust 'em even to look out for themselves.

I take evasive and protective measures, including slowing and being ready to hide behind cars (parked and moving in my direction.)

Glad you weren't hurt

If you think NC is bad, wait till you ride in California!MShaw
Oct 14, 2003 8:58 AM
I can't wait to see what you post about the drivers around here!

Idiots are idiots the world over... Deal with it.

I remember a FEW idiots when I was riding around Blacksburg, VA. The level of traffic on those little country roads is a lot lower than urban/suburban SoCal.

I see a lot of things on my motorycycle and bicycle to make me scratch my head and wonder who taught these idiots to drive.

Am I going to stop? Nope. Am I going to be VERY careful? You betcha.

So quitcher b1tching and enjoy the relatively untraveled roads in NC.

At least the economy's looking up with Arnold(nm)SpecialTater
Oct 14, 2003 9:04 AM
I was born Raised lived 30 years in Southern CA........abicirider
Oct 14, 2003 9:22 AM
I lived 30 years in southern ca so I think I know what it is like I have been in NC for 11 years ok.
Yup, my worst crash was head-on with an 8-YO BMX'rStraightblock
Oct 14, 2003 10:21 AM
It happened a few years ago riding home on the MUT (yeah, I know), cooling down at <15mph. I was taking it easy so I wouldn't be too blown out and overheated for the family portrait we were having done later that morning. I'm cruising at the right edge, and at a blind curve, Soccer Mom and Junior round the curve on opposite sides of the path.

The kid hits me head-on, my headtube snaps and I do a hard face-plant on the asphalt. I needed 5 hours of surgery to put at least 60 stitches (that I could see, anyway) into facial repair and put a plate & screws into a broken thumb. My dentist repaired the chipped front tooth a few days later. Needless to say, we had to reschedule the family portrait.

I still find it ironic that after all these years, thousands of racing and training miles on all kinds of roads, a 4th grader gave me my worst crash. The only crash even close to that was a 40mph+ pileup on a downhill in a Cat 1-2 road race in the old leather hairnet days, and the toll from that one was only a mild concussion and half a dozen stitches, plus a little road rash. The bike survived with a bent wheel, a scuffed seat and a scratched brake lever.