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Armstrong and Heras on 'old' Trek frame ?(14 posts)

Armstrong and Heras on 'old' Trek frame ?Derrick VL
Oct 12, 2003 1:22 PM
Why could we see Armstrong (Tour de France 2003) and Heras (Vuelta 2003) on 'old' 5900 Trek frames instead of the newer Madone-frame?

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5900 isn't 'old'...zero85ZEN
Oct 12, 2003 2:06 PM
Trek is still producing it. Check out their website.
New 5900 is lighterswvegg
Oct 12, 2003 2:36 PM
The Madone is a few grams lighter than the previous generation 5900(51 grams). But the new 5900 is 151 lighter than the previous 5900, by manipulating the lugs to make it lighter. Making the new 5900 100 grams lighter than the Madone. That's why they used it on the big mountain stages.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2003/news/aug29
also Madone is said to be stiffer by a large amount...russw19
Oct 12, 2003 2:46 PM
It was said that Lance didn't care for it as his everyday rig, as it was too stiff for his liking. He prefered the ride of the 5900.

Most of us are rarely in the saddle for 8 hours straight without rest stops. Lance is. So a super stiff frame may not be to his liking and that would be one reason why.

Russ
He trains on 5900 (nm)teoteoteo
Oct 12, 2003 2:57 PM
where did you hear that?lancewannabe
Oct 12, 2003 4:11 PM
Im in no wat disputing you, I just find that ironic since trek designed the Madone to be his everyday bike.
where did you hear that?teoteoteo
Oct 12, 2003 4:42 PM
I seen with my own two eyes! (laughs) Actually I live in Austin and his personal assitant/mechanic came from the shop I work at. So far I have yet to see one of his Madone's other than the one I fondled at the Tour but maybe that will change. For now he is on 5900's
Which shop in Austin, out of curiosity? (nm)JonnyHu
Oct 12, 2003 5:34 PM
Which shop in Austin, out of curiosity? (nm)teoteoteo
Oct 12, 2003 6:09 PM
Bicycle Sport Shop...
I think one of Lance's Madones is at....lanterne rouge
Oct 13, 2003 7:32 AM
the Interbike show. I saw it at the Shimano booth. At least I believe it to be one of Lances as it had his name on the top tube and the little badge on the seatstay was a Texas flag with his name in it, as opposed to just being a Madone badge. I have to say that the Madone was one of the most impressive bikes at the show, photos do not do the bike justice. (Of course you have to drop any Dislike a Trek because it is a Trek bias to admit that, and that seems hard for some people to do.)
Trek Rep.russw19
Oct 12, 2003 6:32 PM
My Lemond/Fisher/Trek/Klein rep. They say it's a bit too harsh for his liking. Yes, they may very well have designed it for him to ride, but that doesn't mean he's just gonna ride it because of that. Lance is fanatical about his equipment, he rode 8 year old pedals for 3 years... and he is notorious for not changing what works for him and what he likes. Maybe after they tweak the bike some or he gets to ride it more in the off season that may change, but for now, he's on the 5900.

Russ
You can trust Teos' word....and his camera!CARBON110
Oct 13, 2003 6:21 AM
Teo knows just about all you can know concerning "the man" and his equipment...everything from the tires to skewers :) to the frames. He gets to see it during the winter and during the Tour just in case anything might be different. Thats about as good as it gets. Besides Lance had 16 different bikes at the Tour. Trek can make any frame in any kind of OCLV. Im sure Lance had different bikes with different levels of stiffness and weight. Meaning that some bikes might have extra layers of carbon to increase stiffness and others might be stock like his SL 5900. After all Trek has to be told/reviewed by Lance if a bike is " to stiff to flexy"
Proof of this is the Madone here at my LBS that has more "ply" then stock Madone but is a little heavier. I think this opens up speculation (key word) that Trek and Lance might play around a bit with different levels of stiffness and weight. There has also been discussion Trek might redesign the Madone for Production...leading to a late release date
You can trust Teos' word....and his camera!Giant_Tom
Oct 13, 2003 11:24 AM
Madone is in production from what I saw a week ago at the Trek factory in Waterloo.
Two 58's Shipped last week for usteoteoteo
Oct 13, 2003 3:11 PM
Right now Trek is only shipping 58's (LA'S Size) but there have been some setbacks--I have been told by reliable sources that the 58 line is the only one in current production. It goes in line with a feature presentation/demo that my shop is doing with Trek on Oct. 28. I have been told that Trek will only be bringing 58 cm Madone's.

We have two that should arrive very soon as they shipped last week.