Oct 10, 2003 3:42 PM
|I'm talking seriously about employment with a company in Montreal Canada. Like most folks from south of the border, when I think about Canada I see hockey and snow. I know this is a false impression. Anyone living up there who can fill me in on the cycling, the climate, the city, etc.? I would be moving from Ohio. I'd appreciate any input.|
|Lotsa snow, lotsa cold....||Alexx|
Oct 10, 2003 3:48 PM
|...high taxes, high property crime rate, lousy road maintenance, constant unemployment rate of about 10%, political bickering and infighting, also you need to learn Quebecois (bastardized) French to survive.|
Oct 11, 2003 10:44 AM
|Snow and cold...well, sure, it's Montreal. The winters will be cold. The summers will be hot. I'm sure Ohio, Michigan, New York, and other northern US states also have cold winters.
High property crime rate? You care to back that up with facts? When I was in Montreal I felt that it was safer than Vancouver. The streets were full of friendly people and I always felt secure.
Unemployment in Canada is always higher than the USA, and always a little higher in Quebec. It isn't something that one should worry about.
Political infighting and bickering? Sounds like any country to me.
Learning French isn't a problem. Is it?
Sounds like you are either a cynical Canadian or an ignorant non-Canadian. Which is it?
|re: Montreal is a great place to live||hudsonite|
Oct 10, 2003 4:30 PM
|I have lived in Montreal for a long, long time. I have also lived and worked in many other cities in the world, inlcuding cities in the US, Canada and Europe.
Montreal is a great town. It is a very lively city with lots to do. Great town for cycling and it is getting better all the time. I cycle from April until November and ski from December to April. There are lots of bike paths and bike shops. Biking has really become a part of the social fabric.
Yes we have winter, but winter brings other opportunites for many other outdoor sports. If you hate winter, this is not the place for you. If you enjoy the outdoors, there is so much to do.
The political situation is very stable and there is no issues. Housing is still cheaper than most major cities of the world. There is lots of employment in the technology sectors (aerospace, pharma, software...). The economy is really doing well.
Taxes are high, but so are the taxes in California and NY. Car insurance is low, health care is very good and does not cost anything, daycare for a family is very, very inexpensive, public transportation is also very reasonable. Higher education is very inexpensive. So you have to look at taxes and services together.
For a high income earner that is single and that wants to make and save a lot of money, Montreal is not the place to come. If you want to enjoy a really great lifestyle, you will probably enjoy this city. French Canadians are driven by lifestyle rather than by money and work. This still like money, buy they work to live, rather than live to work.
If you want to start a business and make and save a lot of money in the technology business, then Montreal has lots of incentives and tax advantages.
If you are an American coming to Canada and you work in the Research sector you may also be elligible for a tax holiday. This can reduce your income taxes significantly.
There are lots of people that live here that speak only English. But to really enjoy the Montreal experience, you should plan on learning the French language. It is great to be able to learn a new language. It gives you a different perspective on people and culture.
Depite what the earlier poster said, the crime rate here is very, very low. The streets are safe. Crimes against people are rare. Guns are never seen.
The conditions of the roads are good to bad, depending upon the time of the year. During the spring thaw, there are lots of pot-holes. This affects cars a lot more than bikes though. I have never really found the roads to be a problem when I am on two wheels. In our cycling club this year, we have had only incident of a flat all summer.
If you come to Montreal and are open to new food, experiences and culture, you will love it. Some people come and never leave, others come and leave after the first winter.
|re: Montreal Canada||Toby|
Oct 10, 2003 5:34 PM
|I was just there. It looks like it would be a great place in the summer. Good night life, shoping, restaurants etc. 5 mins from the centre is good scenery and (I assume) some good biking. For me though the winters are too long and brutal, I couldn't live there.
Now....if I were single I would be there in a shot. Reason? Montreal women are the best looking women in North America.
|Montreal is a big bike city||Chainstay|
Oct 10, 2003 6:29 PM
|Bikes and bike equipment are inexpensive with the bigger Canadian distributors located in the city. Marioni, Guru and I believe Argon are local manufacturers of high-end bikes. Louis Garneau is based out of nearby Quebec City. Many of Canada's top cyclist are from the Province.
If you really want to bike year round there is cycle-cross and spinning classes. Mountain biking in the snow is the most fun though.
I live in Toronto by the way so I'm a little biased.
|Go for it!||gf99|
Oct 11, 2003 5:47 AM
|I'm actually a little envious of your opportunity. Beautiful city, lots of history, very liberal and cosmopolitan. Great place for outdoor recreation, especially biking and skiing. Great summer festivals. You can get by in english, but you should learn french once you're there. Find a place close in, not out in the burbs.
Your jaw will drop when you look at your first pay check (what's left of it), but the low cost of living and public services offsets it somewhat.
Coming from Ohio, the climate shouldn't be too much of a shock.