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Ebay scam: Merlin cielo dura-ace triple(9 posts)

Ebay scam: Merlin cielo dura-ace triplePeterRider
Oct 10, 2003 9:20 AM
This scam has been going on for weeks and weeks:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3630943156&category=7298
and here it is again:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3630964616&category=7298

I emailed ebay about past ads, apparently they are not doing much...

Pierre
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Oct 10, 2003 9:27 AM
Why do you think this is a scam?
It's a good fake, but still a fake.53T
Oct 10, 2003 9:45 AM
If you serach the seller's feedback items you will see he has never bought or sold a bike or any sporting goods. The first seller deals in albums and CDs. The second seller deals mith music memorabilia.
It appears that two seller have had their auctionsdavet
Oct 10, 2003 9:45 AM
hijacked and converted by the scammer. Same descriptions in two separate auctions. If you look at one sellers other auctions, he has nothing else that is bike related. If this is the case, the 'real' sellers should be notified and informed.
week after week...PeterRider
Oct 10, 2003 9:46 AM
you find the same ad, selling for the same price, from completely different sellers. You can see a few of them by doing a completed auctions search.

The auction always ends early. I emailed twice the sellers, the answer was clearly from somebody who doesn't know much about bikes.

I am 200% sure those are stolen ebay identities and non-existing bikes.

Pierre
No frame size listedtorquer
Oct 10, 2003 11:49 AM
and, if the bike in the photo has a triple, the inner chainwheel is very "stealth".
re: Ebay scam: Merlin cielo dura-ace triplejtolleson
Oct 10, 2003 2:21 PM
eBay can be so maddening. I've emailed them about a problem seller who now has a -3 feedback, has never shipped anything to anyone as far as I can tell, and is now using a catalog photo to list for $800 a $7500 juke box. I've not bought from him (I'm juke box shopping) but it was so OBVIOUS! They did nothing.

And what is this with private buyer IDs? All I can tell is that it enables fraudulent sellers to be sure that no one else can contact their buyers and warn them.

I agree with your assessment of "scam". Who knows where the photo comes from, but it is clearly someone's personal rig (you don't see that kind of a riser stem in a manufacturer ad). It isn't even a triple, though advertised as one. And the same bike is clearly listed twice.

I like eBay and have bought probably 50 items there, but I try to be very discerning about the seller, his feedback, pre-transaction communications, and selective about methods of payment. Doesn't mean I can't get burned, but I'm pretty good about resisting the "too good to be true" auction.
For fun and amusementfiltersweep
Oct 11, 2003 6:19 AM
I emailed the seller just to pull his chain a bit- one of the guys (if there really are two)... he has a .to email address... anyway, he says he's in Germany on business and he said that the bikes will be shipped by UPS from Germany (free, no less), and that he has every size available... must be an interesting business trip with all those bikes ;)
I made an offer he couldn't refuseCrankist
Oct 11, 2003 7:07 AM
I offered $7500. I can't send exact amount but am authorized payment of $9400. Could he please accept and remit balance via Western Union?