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Teen Cyclist killed in charlotte, NC area last night(11 posts)

Teen Cyclist killed in charlotte, NC area last nightabicirider
Oct 10, 2003 6:06 AM
Don't want to start any controversy dont know if you would consider the rider a cyclist anyways picture on news of mangled bike was an old raleigh 10 speed 3rd hand brakes no toe clips etc. but that is relatively unimportant. The part that I feel is negative toward, (how can I say this), serious or real cyclist this kid for some reason was riding at 8:30pm in the center of a one lane highway each way (highway 73) with a 55mph speed limit. To Make it worse it was a main road to the Lowes Motorspeedway (nascar junk) and was heavily traveled as this is a big race weekend. from what I understand he was rear ended and thrown into oncoming traffic what a terrible shame how sad for anyone riding a bike to loose their life.
But on the other hand without being too harse in my thinking this is exactly what fuels and motivates the non cycling community to get cyclist off the road and abuse us while we are on the road.
Again this is just my stupid opinion and by no way or means am I correct or wrong just my thinking.
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!
Ray Still
Mooresville, NC
Culling the Herdbrad nicholson
Oct 10, 2003 6:25 AM
While I absolutely agree that the event is a tragedy you raise some interesting points about where and when he was riding. Sadly his family will now bear the grief and consequences of his poor decision making. It is absolutely the cyclists responsibility to do all they can to mitigate the risk of riding on the roads. You can argue all you want from the position of principle, bikes have rights too, etc but at the end of the day 4000k pounds of steel vs 20 pounds of aluminum is going to end in disaster.

I echo the thought, be careful and take the necessary precautions if you must ride in or near darkness, especially on heavily travelled roads.
re: Teen Cyclist killed in charlotte, NC area last nightgf99
Oct 10, 2003 6:37 AM
I know the area and stay off 73 in the daytime nevermind in the dark.

It's sad, but damn, people need to use their heads. You're correct that this type of thing certainly doesn't help the image of cyclists. Imagine what the person(s) who hit him are feeling today.
Cautionary talelitespeedchick
Oct 10, 2003 7:07 AM
My husband and I were driving home one evening, the week after the Oct time change, and SMACK...hit a cyclist in the dark. We were passing another car (thank God in a legal passing area) I did not see the oncoming cyclist until a milisecond before the window glass smashed in. My husband (who was driving) NEVER saw him. I was (I'm embarrased to say) hysterical.

Then, upon turning the truck around, we saw him miraculously sitting up on the side of the road. He had hit his head and collar bone on the driver's side mirror. He broke his helmet and his glasses and his collar bone, but otherwise was OK. The highway patrolman actually gave the poor guy a ticket for not having a light on his vehicle after dark.

He told us he had forgotten about the time change and just misjudged when he would be getting home. He also said he saw us coming, but didn't want to get out of the road and thought we would miss him. (I guess he was right...except for that mirror...consider if the front of the pickup had hit him.)

The cop actually gave us his bike to take back to his house the next day. The guy had some neck problems later, and my husband, a chiropractor, treated him for a while (for free, of course). His wife actually sent us cookies at Christmas. This getting-hit-by-a-car story probably has the best ending of any in history.

So attention to oncoming darkness in the weeks ahead!
Refreshing end to an unfortuante incident.Steve_0
Oct 10, 2003 7:57 AM
I wouldnt doubt many people on this board suggested he contact an attorny and sue you for a 'brand new' bike.

Nice to see adults settle things on their own (oh yeah, above and beyond to treat him for free...kudos).
for the recordSteve_0
Oct 10, 2003 6:39 AM
I consider someone riding a bicycle to be a cyclist, regardless of his equipment. The term 'cyclist' was around long before '18 speeds', STI, and toeclips.

Anyhooo, with freedom comes responsibility. Unfortunately, his (apparent) lack of responsibility resulted in tragedy.

I dont think this type of incident fuels anti-cylcing sentiment as much as 'serious' cyclists in packs flagrantly and obnoxiously breaking the law. It seems this incident would draw more sympathy for loss and curiousity about rationale than motivation for a ban.
In the words of a wise old trauma surgeon I worked with...DrPete
Oct 10, 2003 6:59 AM
"No matter how many advances we make in medicine, there's still no cure for stupid."

It IS unfortunate that this guy had to be riding a bike when he chose to commit suicide, but I can only hope that the non-cyclist community as a whole will simply see this guy as a PERSON who did something incredibly stupid, not a CYCLIST who they can equate with the responsible riders they see on the edge of the road in daylight hours, and it sounds from the details of this story that this will be the case.

The truly sad thing about this whole story is that the kid has now permanently destroyed his family, friends, and the driver of the car that hit him, and yeah--it was totally his fault.
In the words of a wise old trauma surgeon I worked with...Eric F
Oct 10, 2003 9:32 AM
You guys act like when you are teenagers you didn't ride your bike with disregard for safety. I know I did. No lights in the dark, darting everywhere ect. Its sad he was hit before he learned responsible riding
In the words of a wise old trauma surgeon I worked with...russw19
Oct 10, 2003 8:19 PM
And for all that, how does anyone here know he wasn't trying to avoid someone's cat running across the street? Or swerving for any other reason. OK, so the kid didn't have lights... and he wasn't riding a Colnago or a Trek OCLV, but people here seem like they are judging him as a bad kid because he died doing something you and I think is stupid. So you and I are all "serious" cyclists and we ride lightly traveled roads at night with super lighting systems... this kid didn't... so what! He's dead and it's tragic. Who knows what that kid may have gone on to accomplish if he lived. Maybe nothing, maybe something horrible, and maybe something great, but now some kids Mom and Dad are grieving a lost child and Dr. Pete is on his high horse spouting off about how this kid committed suicide and ruined lives. WTF! How do you know so much about this kid? How do you not know he wasn't riding home from work at some low pay job so he can help his family support his siblings? What the hell makes you the expert on this kid's life? And what makes you the expert on this kid's death?

Maybe you should step back and think about what you wrote here in a public forum. You look like an ass. For christ's sake, the kid is dead and you are acting like you want his body strung up in the town square to put on display for all the lives he "ruined." For all any of us knows, this was nothing more than a tragic accident. I think we should leave it at that and let this poor child's soul rest in peace.

It Is A Fine LineRazzo
Oct 10, 2003 1:38 PM
When maturing as a young person and as a cyclist is is a fine line between being "carefree and careless." I am sure it was not his intent for his life to be ended on a piece of ashfault. He just did not have the luxury, like the rest of us have all had, in saying "Christ, I was lucky, I won't do that again."
You don't know that- I'm guessing it was drug related or suicidefiltersweep
Oct 10, 2003 3:01 PM
I work with suicidal people daily and am often exposed to "personal tragedy" situations that NEVER make the press. As part of my job I do "critical incident debriefings."

The vast majority of suicides never make the news- and for every successful suicide, there are countless non-lethal attempts. Any paramedic or cop will tell you stories that will turn your hair white.

Jumping off overpasses onto freeways is a relatively common method of suicide, as is running in front of traffic. Who is to say this wasn't a suicide attempt? Evening is a rather common time for suicides, and even completely stupid people usually have some sense of self-preservation.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this was either drug related or a suicide.