|Poll: Who here takes incoming calls while on a ride? (more)||Fez|
Oct 9, 2003 6:03 AM
|I've noticed an increasingly disturbing trend of riders taking incoming cellphone calls on the bike.
First I thought it was just the folks on the bike path riding comfort bikes who were just out for some fresh air and nice conversation.
But there are increasingly more people who talk on the phone while riding on a fast training loop. These are folks who are on road bikes and at least appear to be there to ride hard. And they don't pull off to take the call - they just ride and talk. I don't think its a one time thing - some of these folks have a bar or stem mount for the phone and some even wear a handsfree device during the entire ride. Kind of like a mobile office.
I see the same offenders, lap after lap, day after day, and plenty of new ones. Its pretty scary riding along at 20+mph, hearing a "ring-ring" and then seeing the person reach over to answer it. I try to steer clear of these people.
Has anyone else seen this on fast training rides or group rides? What do you think of this?
|I do all the time...||TJeanloz|
Oct 9, 2003 6:10 AM
|I don't have long conversations, and I usually don't place calls - but if somebody calls me with a quick question, it's not a big deal to answer it. There are times/places I wouldn't, but for the mostly rural riding that I tend to do, it's no big deal. I'd say I probably field an average of one call per ride.
I've even taken phone calls in the middle of races (not since it is now against the rules). I don't really see the problem.
|you take calls in the middle of races?!!! (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Oct 9, 2003 6:30 AM
|I know!?! T, do you get your a$$ kicked a lot? nm||Kristin|
Oct 9, 2003 6:32 AM
|Its been done,||TJeanloz|
Oct 9, 2003 6:34 AM
|One of my favorite moments of racing was when I was busting myself on the front, chasing a group down, phone rings, a teammate (much, much stronger, who rarely breaks a sweat) rolls up beside me, pulls it out of my pocket, and tells the caller: "he can't come to the phone right now, he'll call you in 5 minutes when he's shelled off the back."
Which was pretty much how it went.
|I hate to but...||gf99|
Oct 9, 2003 6:22 AM
|My job requires that I be on call sometimes. It comes down to a choice of a) stay home and wait for the phone to ring, or b) go ride and take an occasional call. Not a difficult choice actually. I save the group rides for when I'm not on call.|
|yes, if it's my wife||DougSloan|
Oct 9, 2003 6:25 AM
|With a pregnant wife, I sure as heck better take a call from my wife. However, I do pull over and stop.
I've never seen anyone else do so dangerously. Dangerous riding is dangerous riding, no matter how you get there. My bet is that many of the riders who would condemn phone use routinely blow through stop signs and lights, ride 2 or more abreast where there's no room, etc.
|I am packing one||bigrider|
Oct 9, 2003 6:26 AM
|Many of the riders carry one in our club. It is great if you can't make the start time of a ride or have a mechanical. One Saturday morning I rode with five different riders, three of which were located by calling and meeting at specified spots of the route. I don't do business or make casual calls on the bike but like having the phone with me for that unplanned emergency or linking up with fellow club members.|
|No friggin' way........||MR_GRUMPY|
Oct 9, 2003 6:30 AM
|When I'm on my bike, I'm off world. I don't even carry, when I'm riding.
(I leave my phone off when I'm in my car, also)
|What he said||jma24|
Oct 9, 2003 11:57 AM
|Rarely, but I took one last week.||Kristin|
Oct 9, 2003 6:30 AM
|My cell phone only rings like twice a month as it is. Last week I took a call during a ride because I was making plans for later that day. However, I pulled over and stopped before getting answering the call. I resumed my ride after I hung up. Part of why I ride is to get away from hassles and people. Why would I chatter on the phone?|
|Oh, and another thing||Kristin|
Oct 9, 2003 6:38 AM
|If you're able to talk on the phone during a ride, you're not working hard enough. Get it in gear baby!!|
|Why do you bring it?||Zman|
Oct 9, 2003 7:48 AM
|Kristin, why bring the phone in the 1st place?
I agree with you, I want to GET AWAY from the phone and from work, so I do.........completely!
I carry a photo ID in case I get hit and get unconscience. If I see a accident I could in all likihood ride my bike to the scene and use THEIR cell phone.
To each his or her own, I want peace and quiet!
|I don't always bring it. Depends on my local.||Kristin|
Oct 9, 2003 7:53 AM
|If I'm riding in a remote location, I'd want it in case of emergencies. But where I ride most often, suburban Chicagoland, I don't really need it. Then again, if I see some one crash out on the Fox River Trail early in the morning, it might still be 5-10 minutes before another rider comes along. So even then, it can be useful.
The other night I passed a car crash--while driving. I was going to stop, but 4 other cars already had and I was busy enough avoiding a wreck of my own in the mayhem. So I called 911. I figured I wouldn't be the first caller. Surprise. I was. I think lots of people assume that, "someone else will call." Not always true.
|What's it hurting if it's not turned on?||litespeedchick|
Oct 9, 2003 8:15 AM
|What do you do if you have an unfixable mechanical and you're 20 miles from home? I took a three mile walk home(I was very lucky where the problem occured) in carbon soled shoes and it took me an hour. I never ride w/out the phone now.
My husband, on the other hand, has had two mech. where he had to call me to come get him. Both times he had to knock on a stranger's door to use the phone. I guess it's not as scary for a guy to do that, but I'd rather not. I just don't understand why he won't carry that cell in his damn pocket. You don't have to turn it on unless you need it.
|(or you could just ride in real shoes).||Steve_0|
Oct 9, 2003 8:38 AM
|agree, may not be the brightest idea for a woman to knock on a strangers door.
Personally, I like to think I'm creative enough to resolve obstacles without calling in the marines. Much more challenging and rewarding.
Oct 9, 2003 9:27 AM
|The phone represents a cage for me. I spend at least 20 hours on the phone each week and I consider it a prison. I will not carry one, I don't care what happens to me or my bike. There are really very few mechanicals that would prevent me from riding to a phone or a safe local. And if that happens then I will dump the bike and walk.
I understand clearly that things are different for a woman, I really do not need to worry about being raped or molested, and I can fend for myself quite nicely.
When I go out the world is quiet for me, regardless of conditions, and I want to keep it that way.
Your question of "What does it hurt", for me the answer is EVERYTHING!
|Its perfectly fine to CARRY one... (more)||Fez|
Oct 9, 2003 11:38 AM
|I have no problems with carrying one in a saddle bag or pocket. I have not needed to use one ever while out on a ride, but I do it for 2 reasons:
1) Makes the wife worry less. But I tell her it is off and it is not a means to contact me. Its so I can call for help if the need arises.
2) Murphy's Law would have it that the one time I don't carry it, I will have a huge mechanical breakdown many miles from home.
I just don't understand what could be so darn important in everyones' personal lives that cannot wait until the ride is over.
|only if I'm expecting one||mohair_chair|
Oct 9, 2003 6:34 AM
|I rarely take a phone on my rides, and the only way I'll ever answer it is if I am expecting someone to call. Part of the reason for riding is to get away from phones and noise and work. I don't understand why some people bring it with.|
|One better, who's sent e-mail via Blackberry w/o stopping? (nm)||TJeanloz|
Oct 9, 2003 6:36 AM
|or, who's on a bike right now as they post? (nm)||DougSloan|
Oct 9, 2003 8:14 AM
|When I was a consultant...||biknben|
Oct 9, 2003 6:37 AM
|My former job was consulting (CAD consulting). I spent about 50% of my time at my client's location. The rest of the time I worked my own hours. That means I rode whenever I wanted and fit work in at my convenience.
But...my clients still expected me to be available during normal business hours. That meant I rode with the phone. I would always stop to take a call.
I did have to tell my boss I was stuck in traffic once.
|I talk on the phone......||african|
Oct 9, 2003 6:42 AM
|when I am riding on my own, I am very carefull and keep the conversation short. I have never seen anyone talk on the phone while on a group ride. I have seen a guy answer his phone while the group was stopped at a red light and he was given a roasting as it was his chick.|
|Unfortunately, yes I do||Dave Hickey|
Oct 9, 2003 6:52 AM
|If there's traffic, I'll pull over. If it's a country road with no traffic, I'll ride and talk.|
|I never do, nor would do it. nm||Spunout|
Oct 9, 2003 6:53 AM
|Can't: phone turned off; used for emergency only (nm)||hrv|
Oct 9, 2003 7:06 AM
|my experience .... keep the phone on .....||african|
Oct 9, 2003 7:42 AM
|Keep the phone on for an emergency. The wipe outs I have seen on rides, you can't get that phone on fast enough to make a call. Keep the phone on, just put the ringer off so you can make a fast call. Imagine you get involved in some road rage with a red neck you wants to ride you off the road, grab phone and hit 911, no waiting for phone to turn on and find a signal - waste of precious time.|
|good point! nm||Kristin|
Oct 9, 2003 7:47 AM
Oct 9, 2003 7:13 AM
|A club member would use his handsfree kit that he worked into his helmet strap for that wannabe look... I don't know if it was even connected to his phone- never saw him actually use it. Of course he wore a full Postal kit- and had the matching bike.|
|Nope, not during meals or sex either. nm||dzrider|
Oct 9, 2003 7:14 AM
|My last remaining standard: Won't carry a phone on a ride||Cory|
Oct 9, 2003 7:35 AM
|Actually I don't carry it anywhere--I've never had a phone call so important it can't wait until I'm back home or in the office. If I didn't think it's a good idea for my wife and daughter in emergencies, I wouldn't have the thing at all. But I don't carry it on a ride, ever.|
|Amen...Cut The Cord...Unplug from the Grid....||Gregory Taylor|
Oct 9, 2003 7:41 AM
|I don't carry one either. I don't own one. I treasure my phone-free moments.
Gender-Based Double Standard Warning: My wife resisted getting one. I insisted, citing "safety" as she is in the car alot. Surprise! She's turned into a power user. She loves it.
|No way, phones suck.||Turtleherder|
Oct 9, 2003 7:36 AM
|I spend way to much of my day on the phone as it is, the last thing I want is to be messing with one on a ride.|
|Rare, but I've done it||vindicator|
Oct 9, 2003 7:55 AM
|Carrying the phone is a no brainer for me. If the family's expecting me at a certain time and I'm going to be late, I can call. If I need help, I can call (though the only time I crashed and couldn't ride home I was in a valley with no cell reception).
Answering it isn't a big deal, either. Calls are very rare, and when they happen it's my wife or kids - and they know not to call about stuff that can wait when I'm riding. I've pulled over to answer when I was in the middle of a steep out of the saddle climb and when I was in traffic. I've taken it on the fly when traffic was light, and the road was flat with a wide shoulder. I wouldn't talk on the fly in a group unless I was at the back and dropped back a bit first.
|I always take calls from my kids..............||Len J|
Oct 9, 2003 8:09 AM
|doesn't matter if I'm on the bike, in the john, in a board meeting at work, my kids call & they know I will answer.
First question is always, Are you all right?
Second question is is this an emergency?
Third question is Can I call you back (Assuming that 1 & 2 say all is OK)?
It's about priorities?
However, I always stop to take the call.
Oct 9, 2003 8:16 AM
|When I'm out riding and my kids are home on their own (14 &10) I keep my phone on. But they know not to call unless it's really an emergency.
The one time I answered and kept riding (alone on a wide rural road) it was the school nurse telling me my son was sick. I had to explain I was on my bike, 30 minutes from my car, but would be there as soon as I could. As a mom I need to be reachable for those types of emergencies.
Oct 9, 2003 8:20 AM
|I'm on-call 24/7, so it's either carry a phone or sell the bikes (or change careers).
I do almost always pull over to take the call though.
Oct 9, 2003 8:35 AM
|I'm on call 24/7 also. I've convinced my organization that this is quite a sacrifice to one's personal time, and there should be exclusions to 24/7. I stated that there ARE times when one simply isnt available...swimming, surfing, showering, laying a roof, In an MRI, etc etc etc.
It took little convincing to have another phone and blackberry assigned to a 'backup' individual.
This probably wouldnt work in the Medical field, but certainly most others.
(oh yeah, if i'm ever miss a call because I was on the bike, I simply say I was swimming.)
Oct 9, 2003 8:49 AM
|I'm in the medical field. Fortunately I don't get called too often, but I need to be reachable when I do.|
Oct 9, 2003 11:47 AM
|How in the world did you ride before cellphones became so portable?
Did you take your pager and a roll of quarters along and stop off at the nearest payphone?
|I'm not that old.||NatC|
Oct 9, 2003 1:04 PM
|I was still in school back then. How did you do it, by telegraph? Hoo-wah.|
|If you do, that's just sad. nm||Dropped|
Oct 9, 2003 8:41 AM
|Emergencies work both ways||frankamo|
Oct 9, 2003 8:42 AM
|I always keep my phone on, and at least check to see who's calling me. I figure it could very well be an emergency on the other end of the line that I need to respond to.|
|Not me! Don't even own a phone. :-) (nm)||ECF|
Oct 9, 2003 9:11 AM
|Only to order a pizza for when I get home (nm)||mexican-JUMPING-frijoles|
Oct 9, 2003 9:21 AM
|Oh man-almost cost me a pump in the spokes.||MXL02|
Oct 9, 2003 9:29 AM
|Like most of the other responders, I hate to use my cell phone when riding. I carry one and check in with the answering service at rest stops, and make calls if necessary, but IMHO, even if it's an emergency, what the hell can you do on bike 20 miles or more from home?
Anyway, on a group ride several weeks ago I used the phone at the rest stop, but forgot to turn it off before the return trip. Right as the pace really started to heat up, the damn thing starting ringing...loudly and constantly. Everybody within a few bikes of me started glaring at me...I quickly reached into my jersey pocket and turned it off. But I had to slow down and pull out of the pace line to do it...the guys hammered like hell so I couldn't bridge, and I ended up getting dropped. Nobody had to remind me next time to turn off the damn phone.
|when oncall, I do it, but I drift to the back of the pack. nm.||uksrfr|
Oct 9, 2003 9:40 AM
|I take mine.||KG 361|
Oct 9, 2003 9:43 AM
|I'll take incoming calls from my wife and kids-no one else.|
|I carry it, but it is off.||lemmy999|
Oct 9, 2003 9:48 AM
|I always carry it but it is always off. If you have one I think it is silly not to take it with you. Anything can happen and sometimes getting help quickly makes a major difference. Even if I accidentally left it on, I wouldn't take a call. I hate cell phone power users and pretty much leave it off all of the time. I drive a car that has 165,000 miles so I like having it with me to call a tow truck if I get stranded.|
|OK, judging from most of the responses...||Fez|
Oct 9, 2003 11:53 AM
|Most folks who responded do not talk it up a lot while riding.
But the Cycling Cellphone Powerusers are out there. Get off the phone and respond to this poll!
|not me - I don't even own a cell phone||laffeaux|
Oct 9, 2003 12:06 PM
|I don't own a cell phone by choice. I don't feel the need to talk to people whenever I want, and certainly don't want them to be able to get a hold of me.|
|maybe integrate one with a bike computer??? nm||DougSloan|
Oct 9, 2003 12:34 PM
Oct 9, 2003 6:09 PM
|I broke my collar bone and some ribs in an accident on my bike a few months ago, could have been even worse. I had to ride a few miles to where it would pick up service, but I was able to call for a ride home,. Saved me from having to ride another 6 miles.|| |