|Campy and loaded touring bike||mhinman|
Oct 8, 2003 5:33 PM
|Could you build a heavy duty loaded touring bike with mostly campy conponents. Maybe Centaur 10 speed ergo shifters and derailleur with a 9 speed mountain crank. I would probably need a mountain front derailleur, to make this work. Campy web site basically states that there hubs are not designed for heavy applications and the maximum drilling is 36. So for the wheels, a Phil Wood 48 hole hub with one of those conversion cassette that fits on a shimano freehub. Or maybe the new shimano 10 speed cassette has the same spacing as a Campy 10 speed cassette (Fat chance I know). For brakes I would probably want some canti's.
I have been toying with building a touring bike, and wanted to see if I could do it with Campy instead of Shimano.
Oct 8, 2003 7:25 PM
|With Wood hubs, a mountain crank, conversion cassette, mtb front derailleur, canti brakes, and I'd assume a mtb bottom bracket, what's left? -- just the rear derailleur and shifters? Why bother?
Oct 8, 2003 7:48 PM
|I toured all over Ireland this summer with a custom steel touring bike with mostly Campy Centaur (13-29 cassette, 53/42/30 chainring), Campy hubs, Shimano long reach brakes, carrying 30 lbs in panniers, handlebar packs,etc and I weigh over 210 lbs. Had Mavic Open Pro 520 rims (32 hole) with Panaracer Pasela TGs 32s. No problems but a loose rear spoke at end of trip, which I mostly attribute to the wheelbuidler. Lots of hills, seldom got into small chanring. The Centaur performed spectacularly.|
Oct 8, 2003 11:51 PM
|don't know where you're gonna be touring but if you're heading anywhere remote/exotic you need to remember that Campy is only available in Euroland and North America - equally if it's a long trek even in those areas it's difficult to find Campy kit - Shimano OTOH is available pretty much everywhere there's a bike store of any description...|
|Not too remote||mhinman|
Oct 9, 2003 3:58 AM
|I will probably start with the C & O canal, here in Maryland.|
|Well, for the C&O...||Ray Sachs|
Oct 9, 2003 4:27 AM
|...a singlespeed should do, so the whole discussion is sort of moot. For loaded touring in most parts of the world, though, I'd go with Shimano. It's more versatile in terms of mixing and matching road and mountain components, lower gears are available (this matters to MOST people carrying 30-40 pounds on the bike - when I'm carrying weight up a 10-15% grade of any length at all, I want a low gear down around 20"), and it's much, much easier to find replacement parts on the road. All points other folks have made that can be critically important when you find yourself in the middle of nowhere with too high a low gear or with a busted derailure.
If you want Campy everywhere, well, you just have to decide how important that is. If you just prefer the feel of Campy shifters, you can use a Campy 10 speed shifter to shift a Shimano 9-speed setup just by slightly rerouting the rear gear cable at the derailure attachment point. From all reports, this works flawlessly. See how at:
Oct 9, 2003 8:57 AM
|I like that Ergo lever with Shimano cassette and derailleur. That looks like the way to go. Another perk is that if something does go wrong with the Ergo shifter, you can put on a Shimano shifter which should be available from any LBS.
|re: Campy and Cantis||Andy M-S|
Oct 9, 2003 7:45 AM
|Ergo levers work fine with well-adjusted cantis. I have gutted Mirage levers (black plastic) on my touring/trail/rain/snow beater connected to DiaCompe cantilevers, and I've never had a problem (except for the usual canti squeal). I removed the innards because for this bike I just wanted to use the Ergos as brake levers...
My road bike shifts an Ultegra 9s drivetrain with Centaur 10s Ergos, so that's another way to go.