|My Telekom prediction||Inspector Gadget|
Oct 7, 2003 5:22 AM
|I can't reasonably see Vino staying with Telekom. He placed on the podium last year. I don't see how he could swallow being relegated to a domestique position in support of Ullrich. He'll sign with another team.|
Oct 7, 2003 6:36 AM
|Vino has become one of my favourite riders after his performance in the TDF. I hate to see him play domestique to ullrich (another fave). He's at a point in his career where it's his turn to shine. He's an awesome rider. I just hope he ends up on a solid team so he can get the support he needs. |
On the other hand there are those who probably feel that the combined efforts of vino and ullrich, if they actually work together, are just the ticket to crack captain america(another fave :-).
|re: My Telekom prediction||Ye Olde Balde One|
Oct 7, 2003 6:44 AM
|Shouldn't the same be true of Heras then?
Just because someone places on a Tour podium one year doesn't mean he will do it again...that could have been the ride of his career. But if he helps Jan win, isn't it better than finishing third yourself?
Your reasoning doesn't make sense, there are only so many teams, and he's been at Telecom for a while....
|re: ego||Inspector Gadget|
Oct 7, 2003 12:40 PM
|I'm not sure Heras caould win the TdF. The level of competition was not the same at the Vuelta as it was at the Tour. Too many of the bigger names were simply not there, for a variety of reasons. I would rather place on the podium than be a supporter of someone else if all indicators showed that I could do it.
Similarly, in response to another reply that brought up an interesting point about cracking Lance next year; I'm sure everyone wants to see it happen except for USPS. However, as intriguing as that might be, I can't see anyone setting aside their own pride to ride support for the simple purpose of attacking one person. Vino could attack Armstrong more effectively as a leader with his own domestiques, than by working for Ullrich. The leaders showed a willingness to work together this year for the sole purpose of effectively reeling in LAnce. Why couldn't they do it again next year? Ultimately, I think the ego will be the biggest factor.
|I doubt it||mohair_chair|
Oct 7, 2003 6:57 AM
|Vino never came close to the podium before, and nearly didn't make it this year. Without the broken collarbone, Hamilton would have the third spot.
Vino had a phenomenal year, no question, but he's more of a specialist in short stage races like Paris-Nice and the Tour of Switzerland (both of which he won this year). Generally he does well in the first half of the season, then disappears. This year, obviously, was different.
Vino loves Telekom, because he gets to be leader in important races throughout the year. He knows he can't beat Ullrich, much less Armstrong, so leading a team in the Tour is not going to get him past third. Plus, there's no reason why he can't work for Ullrich and make the podium. After all, Ullrich came in second when he was working for Riis.