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Winter shoes vs. covers/booties(10 posts)

Winter shoes vs. covers/bootiesDaveG
Oct 4, 2003 2:36 PM
Anyone have any experiences or comments on using winter cycling shoes versus putting on toe covers or booties? What is the comfort range of winter shoes? I like the idea of not having to fuss with putting on covers but winter shoes are a bit of an investment and selection is limited. My size 13 feet get cold easy so I would want soemthing that would work for merely chilly weather also
I use Northwave Husky winter shoes.......abicirider
Oct 4, 2003 3:12 PM
Last year we had a darn cold winter in NC but the Northwave husky winter shoes and a pair of smart wool socks kept me nice and warm down in the 20's and even teens. The norwaves have a neoprene like sock built in. with just the winter shoes dont have the hazzel of putting on taking off booties especially if you are outside and your fingers are numb to start with. I would really reccommend the northwaves either the Husky or artic model if you plan on doing alot of winter riding. One thing if you buy winter shoes you should buy one size bigger due to the neoprene insert most winter shoes have.
Be safe Out On The Roads!!!!!!!
Ray Still
what's the upper range?DaveG
Oct 4, 2003 6:36 PM
What is the max temp that you will use the Huskies before your feet turn into a sauna?
everybodys bodies are differentabicirider
Oct 5, 2003 4:20 AM
that is hard to answer everybody is different but for me i don't wear the winter shoes if it is more than 45-50 degrees
Be Safe Out On The Roads!!!!!
Ray Still
I should preface by noting that we ride a lot in the winter.MB1
Oct 4, 2003 4:36 PM
When we started riding year round in DC I found a pair of Lake Winter Cycling boots on sale for $100. Too good a deal to pass up so I bought them. I still have them but find them too moisture proof for our usual 100 mile rides. They turn into foot saunas after a while (can you say fungal infection?).

Neophrene booties are even worse, the only time we will use them is in cold rain. Otherwise they too turn into foot saunas but a lot sooner than winter cycling boots.

I finally resorted to smart wool socks and wool home made booties. They work great for any distance we care to go.
and here's the link to your crazy post on the subjectgtx
Oct 5, 2003 7:40 PM
pretty cool

MB1 "The best all around booties I have ever made." 1/2/03 11:33am
IMHOcoonass
Oct 5, 2003 4:35 PM
For 50°-60°, I've found booties do o.k., and the in-the-shoe toe covers have some merit, but not as good as the booties; you can also purchase chemical type toe warmers in the Sporting Goods of Walmart, etc....$1/pr....works pretty good for about 3-4 hours, which is about my limit in the 35°-40° temps. But my best solution has been the SIDI winter shoe (Freeze:Road or Storm:MTB)and a single pair of Smartwool sox. I bought them 1 full size larger than I normally wear; this allows for air-insulation, and keeps the heat from transmitting through the shoe. The SIDI's cover above the ankle and have a non-sweating pile lining..
Also by buying them a little larger, this will allow you to put in an insulated foot-sole which will keep the cold from coming in through the cleat area and chilling the ball of your foot. I believe that CC has both SIDI styles on sale, and for me, they're worth their weight in gold when riding in the cold.
re: Winter shoes vs. covers/bootiespmf1
Oct 6, 2003 8:26 AM
I post over on the velonews site and this came up last year. A guy there had some Sidi Storms and did not like them. I e-mailed him with some other questions and he offered to sell them to me for $50. He sent them to me to look at and the shoes looked like they'd never been worn, so I sent him $50.

Velonews did a piece on winter shoes last year. The Sidis didn't come out on top, but I can't remember which ones did. They all went for around $200.

Before that, I'd been using neoprene booties that I agree are a pain in the butt. . they do work a little better though. For rides that aren't that cold -- upper 40's or higher, the Sidi shoes are kinda nice though. I used to use these Performance wrap arounds for warmer cool weather. I think the Sidis work in that range and a little cooler. For longer rides when its pretty cold, I still prefer the neoprene covers though. Add some chemical toe warmers inside and my feet stay pretty warm. I used to even warm my shoes in the oven a little before putting the covers over them.

Most of my winter riding is commuting (40 mile round trip) and some shorter (maybe 50 mile) weekend rides. I've only done one century in the winter and didn't find it too enjoyable. So as far as long distance gotes, maybe the MB1 concoction works best.

Bottom line -- the neoprenes are the best bang for the buck. The winter shoes are nice, but not necessary. Try some chemical toe warmers as well. No matter what, in the end, your feet will get cold.
Link to Velonews article...biknben
Oct 6, 2003 10:05 AM
http://www.velonews.com/tech/gadgets/articles/3272.0.html

I remembered the article you mentioned. The Sidi Storms did not do as well as I would have expected in the test. I'm a Sidi fan myself.

One thing worth noting in this review is that these are MTB shoes being tested for MTB use. If considering road use, I suspect the Sidi would have gotten higher marks. The two shoes that received better remarks are moon boots with bike cleats. That's great for slushing through ankle deep slush, mud, and snow on the trail. I would call that overkill for the road. I want comfortable thermal insulation with water resistance.

I'm considering getting a pair of the Storms for my commuting (I use ATAC pedals) and winter MTBing. I think they'll provide a good mix of features for variety of off-road/road use.

Just my 2 cents
Thats what I use them forpmf1
Oct 7, 2003 12:56 PM
I have ATACs on my commuter (a road bike) also. The Sidi shoes work pretty well for commuting. I got them late last winter and didn't get a chance to use them a great deal because of a lot of snow that followed. They've been great the last two weeks though.

And you're right, the VN article was highly slanted to mtn bike usage, not road usage.