Sep 30, 2003 11:31 AM
I was looking on Colorado cyclist and saw this bike, the "Douglas Fusion", really nice parts spec at an awesome price, anyone know of the quality of the frames?? Think it would be worth buying for a first nicely specd road bike??
|re: Douglas bikes??||nhl856|
Sep 30, 2003 11:35 AM
|hmmmm the link didnt work...worked on ridemonkey..
|Do the math||Fez|
Sep 30, 2003 12:01 PM
|That company sells pretty much the same the parts kit for approx $900. Simple subtraction indicates the frame and Ouzo Comp fork are priced at $400.
Its an OK deal - depends if you are a frame snob or not. Lots of mass produced bikes put have a good frame with crap parts on some less visible areas. This is the opposite - generic Easton frame with a solid fork and components.
Word on the street is that company does not allow substitutions on clearance bikes. So if you don't like a part, you have to buy another one and can't substitute or upgrade it.
|I have a Douglas Stealth. It's not a work of art, but it's a||bill|
Sep 30, 2003 12:23 PM
|nice bike, well worth the $700 I paid for the frame/fork (scandium alu frame, Ouzo Pro fork). No carbon parts other than the fork. It rides really well, not as civilized and refined as my late, great Pegoretti or as stiff and disciplined as my Fondriest P4 (also bought on closeout -- come to think of it, everything I'm wearing right now, right down to my shoes and belt, was bought on closeout), but a very decent ride. I bought it as a crit bike without realizing that it's not all that stiff, but it felt nice, anyway, so I kept it.|
|I don't think that the frame is good enough to throw....||MR_GRUMPY|
Sep 30, 2003 12:27 PM
|Dura Ace stuff on it, but it would be a good buy with Ultegra. Check out the TT length and the reach, or you will have to buy another stem.|
|I don't think that the frame is good enough to throw....||nhl856|
Sep 30, 2003 12:30 PM
|Well Ultegra is plenty good for me...this will be my first bike, and I figure its a decent frame and good fork for $400 plus a very respectable build with the TTT, Thompson parts and what not|
|Its a good deal||pmf1|
Sep 30, 2003 12:36 PM
|Most of the prebuilt bikes at CC are good deals if you are willing to accept the parts they give you. There are no substitutions. So if you aren't planning on buying it and then swapping forks, its not a good deal. That said, I find the parts they spec on their "bargain" bikes to be very good. You'd be very hard pressed to buy the parts, fork and frame for what they're selling it for. Add to that the cost of assembly, and there is no way you can do it yourself cheaper. Yes, there are shipping charges, but there is no sales tax, so the two pretty much cancel each other out.
LBS will tell you the downfall of mailorder is that there is no free tune-ups. From what I can tell, the "free" tune ups at LBS are worth about what you pay for them.
I bought a Fuji Cross from them several years ago. A friend bought Fuji road bike a few years later and had me assemble it for him. There is not much to do once you get the bike. It takes longer to clean up the styro peanuts than to get the bike ready to ride. The bike and wheels were very well built. I never had problems with it.
The Douglas ti bikes strike me as an incredible deal. I'm not a big fan of aliminium, but the aluminium close-out looks like a good deal.
Now is the time to buy. If you want it, move fast before they run out of your size. Two of the last three bikes that I've bought have been in the late fall/early winter. Its when the best deals are. The cost is sitting around looking at them all winter.
|CC allowed substitutions on my Douglas...||NatC|
Oct 1, 2003 10:53 AM
|and also on my Blur. No problem.|| |