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Are Mavic CXP-33 much stronger than Cane Creek Aerohead's(14 posts)

Are Mavic CXP-33 much stronger than Cane Creek Aerohead'st-moore
Sep 30, 2003 9:35 AM
I have some 2 month old Cane Creek Chrono wheels that I really like, but now I am having problems keeping the rears true. These are the regular stainless steel wheels. I am going to take them back to SuperGo to have them re-trued.

I am 6'4" 245lbs, and am putting between 150 to 200mi a week on these wheels. Am I better off with the
CXP-33 with Dura-Ace hubs, if I keep having problems.
Any input will be greatly appreaciated
re: Are Mavic CXP-33 much stronger than Cane Creek Aerohead'sECF
Sep 30, 2003 10:28 AM
Might want to check out the following old thread. I bookmarked it because it was so useful. I don't think it deals directly with the Cane Creeks, but I know it highly recommends the CXP33s. Although if people are calling themselves clydesdales at 215 then I must be an elephant. :-)

DougSloan "Clydesdale recommendations..." 1/23/03 8:56am
CXP33sColnagoFE
Sep 30, 2003 10:51 AM
I have a set...32 front and 36 rear. I weigh in the 195 range and use these for regular training. Bombproof wheels. I finally had to rebuild the rear after 4 years of heavy use.

BTW...I think the definition of cyldesdales is roughly 180lb. +
I second...spluti
Sep 30, 2003 11:13 AM
I ran mine into a 3 inch concrete curb at 16 mph using a 23c tire. Not a mark. Although the impression left on my brain is indelable. I weigh 210 + and have about 2 years on these CC built wheels.
Look into the Velocity Deep V rimsrussw19
Sep 30, 2003 11:30 AM
If you are going to upgrade to a stronger rim, that's a better choice at your size. That is the clincher rim of choice amongst some of the cyclecross crowd, so I am sure it will hold up well on the road too.

Look into them...

Russ
True 'nuf.pitt83
Sep 30, 2003 11:36 AM
Velocity Aeroheads or the Deep V are great rims. I go 225 in season and 240 in winter. Never had a problem with the Aerohead (Aeroheat for MTB). CC has them laced to Ultegra fo <$200. Lighter weight than OP. Can't recommend highly enough.
I am 6'2" 240lbs and a cxp 33 manbigrider
Sep 30, 2003 12:02 PM
I have heard the velocity aeroheads are good but I am swearing by the cxp33 36 hole rear 3x laced with brass nipples. These rims are really strong and I paired them with ultegra hubs.

I heard from my LBS owner that dura ace freewheels were not as strong as ultegra because they were lighter material. The cogs would were into the grooves and eventually slip and get sloppy over time. Any feedback on this notion from Dura Ace loving Clydesdales?
Just use a DA Hub and an Ultegra Cassette,cdhbrad
Sep 30, 2003 12:09 PM
so you get a little smoother hubs and possibly longer wearing gears. Only the top three gears on a DA Cassette are from Titanium and those are a steel alloy on the Ultegras. I have both DA and Ultegra cassettes on different bikes and can't tell any real difference in either wear or shifting.
It is not the cassette but the freebody,bigrider
Sep 30, 2003 12:55 PM
the outer part the cassette slides onto with the grooves. He showed me a worn out freebody and you could see where the inside of the cogs wore past the notched grooves and started slipping. I just don't know if this is a usual occurance with big guys.

BTW I use both Dura Ace and Ultegra cassettes.
Sorry, I thought you were talking about the actual teeth on the,cdhbrad
Sep 30, 2003 6:05 PM
cogs wearing faster. I've never seen the problem you describe, but don't doubt it happened.
CPX-33s probably a lot stronger depending on buildTWD
Sep 30, 2003 12:49 PM
At your size, I wouldn't expect the Aeroheads to last. The issue isn't so much the rim strength as it is the build of the wheel. My wife has a set of Cane Creek Aeroheads on her cross bike. I swapped them over to my road bike for one ride, and that was enough to let me know that they weren't going to hold up under my weight. I run about 205 - 215 lbs depending on time of year, and up to 235 lbs with my messenger bag stuffed full. I've had to true them up a few times for my wife who runs 140 lbs.

They seemed pretty flexy to me. I think they are just laced up too light for bigger guys. Now, my primary set of wheels for my road bike is a set of Velocity Aerohead 32 hole Rims laced 3x to Ultegra hubs with DT 14/15 spokes and brass nipples. This is the exact same rim as the Cane Creek wheels use (except the spoke hole drilling). They have held up for me just fine for racing and training.

I have also used the Velocity Deep V rims, which are about as bomb proof as you can get. I have a set of those laced 3x to Ultegra Hubs that have lasted me for probably 15,000 miles and are now serving duty on my cross bike with no complaints. I'm running them on my road tandem with no problems there either.

Both the velocity Aeroheads and Deep Vs are priced pretty reasonbably ($40-$55). If you're looking for bombproof, go with the Deep Vs. Velocity also just came out the their Fusion model and which is about half way inbetween the Aerohead and Deep V interms of profile and weight.

A good compromise would be to either run the fusions front and rear, or Aerohead front and Fusion rear.

Skip the lightweight low spoke count boutique wheels if you want durability. Find yourself a good builder, and go with a decent rim and you'll have a lot less problems.

To answer your orignial question, yes the CXP-33s would probably be a lot stronger wheel due to the deep section rims. I have steered clear of Mavic rims since I know a lot of guys who have had problems with their rims cracking around the eyelets. I've had that same problem with their stuff in the past.

The velocities have treated me very well.
where is a good place to buy Velocity rims? (nm)loki_1
Sep 30, 2003 1:21 PM
www.velocityusa.com will list dealerspitt83
Sep 30, 2003 4:31 PM
Quality distributes to your LBS. Built wheels available from Colorado Cyclist. Occasional clearance and odd-ball sizes at Nashbar (Like every other item they sell)

LBS is probably your best bet for availability.
LBS or a couple places on-lineTWD
Oct 1, 2003 12:59 PM
Your LBS should be able to order them through QBP.

Otherwise, you can get them online at a few different places.

bicycleblowout.com - aerohead and Deep V
bikeman.com - aerohead and deep V
cambriabike.com - aerohead and Fusion

Looks like prices for the aerohead range from $32 - $45 ($32 may be for the one's without machined side walls which I wouldn't recommend).

The prices for the Deep V are ~ $46 - $48. The fusion looks like it's around $59.