|The advantages of riding with Tri-guys||PaulCL|
Sep 28, 2003 12:38 PM
|I read about the negatives of riding with tri-athletes all the time on this board....they don't know group etiquette, they won't take pulls, they ride in aerobars in a paceline, yada yada yada.
Here's a positive. I got a call last night from an unknown rider who wanted to join my 70 mile group ride this morning - I'm the leader. I told him that it would just be the two of us since everyone else bailed since the temp was supposed to be in the upper 30's this morning. We met a 7:30 (55 degrees! wimps!) and he shows up on a softride with aerobars. To his credit, he said he had little experience drafting and riding in groups. So, we rode side by side most of the day. It was great. We knew people in common, had kids the same age, etc...basically, we had a series of great conversations over 4 hours of hills and traffic. His hesitency to ride in a paceline (of two) gave us an opportunity to talk. The miles flew by...one of my best, not fastest, but most enjoyable rides of the year.
It would have been different if I had a group of ten or so. Besides, gotta give the guy a lot of respect. Just two weeks ago he did a full ironman length tri in 11 hours. Painful, just painful.
|re: The advantages of riding with Tri-guys||JimP|
Sep 28, 2003 1:46 PM
As a cyclist and triathlete, I can ride in pacelines and end up pulling more than most. I am now 60 and find I am still staying with those skilled riders in their mid 40s. I still have to give time to the climbers and attempt to make it up on the downhills and flats since my training and body physique is for time trials. There is a difference in the style of most triathletes where they need to manage fuel, fluid, and expended energy. They also have trained to be as efficient as possible while riding a time trial. They are not sprinters nor climbers, just pure time trialists. I was lucky to be a cyclist and learn cycling skills before competing as a triathlete. I think that some of the compliants about riding with triathletes can be attributed to envy where the complainers just cant stay with the thiathletes.
|Don't get me wrong||PaulCL|
Sep 28, 2003 5:23 PM
|A cyclist is a cyclist. I have never had a problem riding on the road with a tri-guy or MTBer on a road bike. I was just pointing out a contradiction to some of the views I've read on this board. I've read many threads complaining about tri-athletes like they were of a different breed. Like I wrote...one of the most enjoyable rides I've had this year. If I'm not in a race (I don't anymore), then I'd rather ride side by side.
I would think as a tri-guy/time trialist you would still want to be a good climber or rather, concentrate on the climbs. The climbs are where you can make up the most time.
|Don't get me wrong||MShaw|
Sep 29, 2003 9:34 AM
|A cyclist is a cyclist is a true statement, BUT triathletes aren't cyclists.
They don't have to be.
Since the races they're doing don't require drafting, pack etiquette, etc. they never really learn these things till they start riding with the roadies. I've seen more "stupid triathlete tricks" on the 101 from new triathletes...
As much as I love hanging out with the triathletes (especially the women!), they really scare me when they're riding bicycles!
|NO NO - you mean some of them - not all of them||african|
Sep 29, 2003 12:32 PM
|"they" implies all of them - let me come ride with your group ride and then you can change that statement to "some triathletes scare me".....|
|re: The advantages of riding with Tri-guys||Mariowannabe|
Sep 28, 2003 5:36 PM
|As a cyclist who does dabble in triathlons, I can say there are advantages. Tri-guys and gals are certainly great athletes. A good rider with aero bars can usually take a mean pull. But I'll never feel comfortable with a rider in the aero position on my wheel, or worse yet in front of me. In a group ride there are plenty of ways to "get aero" without aero bars - when the time is right.
What do the boy scouts say? Safety first?
Sep 29, 2003 4:05 AM
|On who you're riding with.
I've been riding with another "aero head" for 9 years now, we both take pulls while on the aero bar and I feel perfectly safe on the aero bar while riding behind him.
Why ?, simple. We've been riding togther for so many years I know his moves and he knows mine. Same thing with 2 other folks.
I feel safer behind these guys then when in a club roadie ride with folks I don't know.
Sep 29, 2003 10:30 AM
|It's just unfair to genalise. And Tri clubs do groups rides too therefore can learn the skills. I ride with both pure cyclists and triathletes and I really don't think that the etiquette or safety of the two groups really differs. It's all down to the individual and there are unsafe riders in both packs.|| |