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how much is too much? $50+ for a short duathlon?(16 posts)

how much is too much? $50+ for a short duathlon?JS Haiku Shop
Sep 25, 2003 11:31 AM
i'm considering a local road duathlon this weekend. the last time i did this one (2001) it was much less expensive. this year it's $40 to enter, $9 individual USAT insurance, $3.50 processing fee.

2 mile run, 15 mile ride, 2 mile run. i'll be done and in the car 90 minutes after the start. $52.50??? it's not like i'm going to win my category or anything; not even an outside shot.

is this excessive?
Yes, it is excessiveMg1
Sep 25, 2003 11:47 AM
As a runner / cyclist, I love Duathlons, but this year I passed on two due to excessive entry fees: $60 + USAT; crummy shirt...doesn't add up. I suppose the costs of policing the courses and manning the transition areas costs more than a typical run / crit, but factor in the time /family commitments and I end up running / riding from home.
Seems high(ish) to me, but...Silverback
Sep 25, 2003 11:48 AM
I dunno...seems high to me, especially if the organizers have recruited volunteers to do the heavy lifting. But the support is expensive to organize, too.
I recently paid $50 for a century, and I balked at that, too. But the food and stops were really good, and the sponsoring club said up front it was their main fundraiser for the year. Next year I may stay home and do 100 miles around the neighborhood.
re: how much is too much? $50+ for a short duathlon?godot
Sep 25, 2003 11:55 AM
Any USAT event seems excessive....

I'll be participating in a duathlon this weekend. (Still wondering why)

$55 entry, $9 one day membership. So, $64 for 5k run, 40k bike, 5k run.

There are a few cheaper ones around Colorado. One series has 3 races in the early to mid summer for $35 or so a race. they aren't usat, so that helps a lot. Same group is talking about a series of winter duathlon's.

One of the best races is up in Laramie Wyo, $15. Small event, great people, tons of fun (except for that running thing).

Other than those, the rest seem excessive. I probably won't be doing this race again just based on cost.

Good luck if you decide to do it.
I briefly considered one until...biknben
Sep 25, 2003 12:03 PM
...Until I found out it was $50-70 depending on how soon you registered. It was a trail run/MTB/trail run. No Cops required for stuff in the woods. I thought is was excessive considering I pay $25 for MTB and road races.

I've paid $50 but it was obviously to support a huge cash purse. I came home with a profit that day.
Reminds me of DH racingJFR
Sep 25, 2003 12:09 PM
$50 for a 2 min run. Of course practice runs are included, but it's hard to get 2 of those in becuase of lift/shuttle lines.

The last one I did, I got 1 practice run in and then due to lines couldn't get a second one. Yippe, I drove an hour and half each way, paid $50, and rode my bike for 5 minutes (and missed the podium cause of a sandbagger, but that's another rant).

$50 bucks for 90 min of competition doesn't sound so aweful to me :)
Before the race and after the race...Marketing Dept
Sep 25, 2003 12:11 PM
before the race, its hard to justify the cost. For cryin out loud, actually paying someone to let you ride and run??

after the race, you talk to your friends and see the race results and you see that you may have just taken your age group if you hadn't been so cheap.

And then you hear from your friends about how they were on each others heels but friend A pulled away on the last mile. Then you think, "Man, had I been there I could be telling war stories"...

You decide:

$?,???? for a cool bike
$52.50 for an entry fee
...beating a long time rival, or at least coming close...PRICELESS
I admit, I'm not rational re: cost justificationMg1
Sep 25, 2003 6:28 PM
I have no problem spending $100 for running shoes 3-4x / year, whatever the wife lets me get away with on biking equipment. Yet I still obsess over whether I can get just one more 10-miler out of the shoes, or another 50 miles on the Wipperman; I finally tossed a pair of shorts that were at least 10 years old and looked like sh!t(but no smearing!).

I love to race but it does start to wear on the family when you do more than 2-3 events per month. Throw in $60 entry fees and it burns up too much goodwill with the wife.
MD, you suck nmJS Haiku Shop
Sep 26, 2003 10:49 AM
Mind if I piggy back? You struck a nerve,bimini
Sep 25, 2003 12:26 PM
I've noticed entry fees in general have gotten out of line (or I'm just getting older). I'm certain the money goes to good causes, but $30-$50 to participate in any type of short races seems high.

When I get back from a race and the wife asks what I won, (the answer is nothing). Then she asked what it costs, I tell her and then she gives me that look (your an obsessed idiot).

There are a lot of races I don't go to just because the entry fees are so high. I rarely do official TT because it seems silly to pay such a large entry fee to have someone else log my time. I can go out to the same roads and run the route anytime I want and then look at my Astrale 8 when I'm done.

I know there are fees the race clubs need to send on to USCF for Insurance and such but it is a small fraction of the entry fees. It seems they are using the racing fees as the backbone of the finacial support of their Cat 1/2 teams.

What are other peoples thoughts?

PS: there is a non-racing club I belong to that has a $15 yearly membership fee and then 4 different rides each week that are free and open to the public, and they manage to keep the club afloat with just a few rides each year that they charge reasonable sums for.
Every Tri and Du I have done recentlyboyd2
Sep 25, 2003 12:42 PM
has a fee >$40. The tri I am doing next weekend is $60, but it is a good charity and if I raise $200 I get my entrance fee back. I want to do another MTB Du next month, but honestly cost turns me away.
group strike! $190 for long tri was my last ridiculous fee.curtybirdychopper
Sep 25, 2003 4:00 PM
Lets see, $190 for about 5.5 hrs at the Big Kahuna Triathlon, thats about $35 per hour. I guess you pay more for a massage.

anyway, entrance fees are getting out of hand.
re: how much is too much? $50+ for a short duathlon?triton
Sep 25, 2003 5:18 PM
JS Haiku Shop:

I am considering doing the same duathlon here in Memphis. Why is it so high for a small little event?? The Powerman in Alabama is also high but at least they have a closed course (sort of), great goodie bag, and great after race buffet. And I even won something for winning my age group. Nothing against the Los Locos people but maybe they could try to reduce the price a little bit. I think they would get more people to participate if they didn't make it so inaccessible. We have almost NO races in Memphis but when we do and the price is reasonable, people will come out. So I appreciate the fact an organization like Los Locos takes the time to put on an event. But, if they are going to charge the high entry fee, then just say that a certain percentage of the funds are going to a charitable cause. At least then, I would know where my money is going. Well, all said, I will probably be out there and will pay my fee. If you bring a toy they take $5 off the price.

-Triton
That's why I didn't do any events this yearMisJG
Sep 26, 2003 8:01 AM
I have done the Mrs T's triathlon in Chicago every year since 1991, but last year I started to register and the cost was just too much. It had gone up a little every year, so every year I would just say, "It's just 5 bucks more than last year". But somehow those 5 and 10 dollar yearly increases added up to $100 for the entry fee! The Chicago Marathon was $65 last year, so I probably won't be doing those anymore either. I've never done an Ironman distance Tri, but the last time I checked the Hawaii Ironman entry fees were over $300!

It's funny. I quit smoking cigarettes when the price got to $2 a pack and took up Triathlons. Now the Triathlons are getting too expensive!
re: how much is too much? $50+ for a short duathlon?dotkaye
Sep 26, 2003 10:44 AM
that's about average. It tends to be a USAT-specific problem. There's a big fight going on in USAT right now, between the guys who like having a big membership - the high daily fees encourage membership (do 2 USAT races a year, and it's cheaper to buy an annual membership than the daily insurance): and the the other guys who think this is likely to kill the sport, just as it did the last time they tried it in the early 90's. Anyone who is a member of USAT and in the Central region, please vote for Lew Kidder.

It's why I only race tris/dus 4-5 times a year. At $60-$80 a pop, it's just too painful to race more.. Find non-USAT races, and they tend to be cheaper even without the USAT fees, for some reason. A few of these non-USAT races can be dangerous, though, with little or no protection on the bike leg. Pays your money and takes your choice..
updateJS Haiku Shop
Sep 26, 2003 10:46 AM
i'm doing the damned thing anyhow. registered this afternoon online. :(

my time in 2001 was 1:23:24. i'm looking at the fat guys, er, clydesdales from last year, and the top places were:

1:07
1:13
1:16
1:21
1:24
1:23

...with lap times for runs spanning 6.5-minute to 10.5-minute miles and bike legs of 17 mph to 23 mph averages over a 15-mile rolling course. i figure at least i could better my time from 2 years ago, at best i could better #2's time from last year.

there's no way i'm going out sunday and riding a 23 mph bike leg sandwiched between sets of 7 minute mile pairs. i'd need an ambulance. we'll see.

last year i think was the first year they used timing chips, and the results show transition times, in detail. i can't get over the time some folks need to change their shoes. :)

report monday, if i can get online from the hospital.