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Bar plug red blinky lights(25 posts)

Bar plug red blinky lightsgf99
Sep 24, 2003 4:34 AM
Anybody use these? How well do they work?

For example:
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=101&subcategory=1068&brand=&sku=7629&storetype=&estoreid=

Thanks
re: Bar plug red blinky lightskevinmd
Sep 24, 2003 4:35 AM
Saw a few at the MS 150 this past weekend, they worked quite well.

-- Kevin
Peripheral vision?Fez
Sep 24, 2003 5:09 AM
Looks like a good idea, but without trying it out, I think the bright red flashing light could annoy you on your bike, since the flashing red light is not completely behind your body.
awesomeJS Haiku Shop
Sep 24, 2003 5:29 AM
on the early AM and nighttime portions of many long rides this year, i observed and was impressed by bar end plug lights. they are highly visible, accentuate a rear blinkie and reflective material & clothing, and are visible from many (rear) angles. money well spent.

blinkie rant: it's never recommended to use blinkies. always steady.

remember those video games a few years back that caused seizures? blinkies set off the inner cereal killer (sic). solid red lights work just as well, don't irritate fellow cyclists, and don't tempt intoxicated motor vehicle operators quite as well.
disagree w/blink mode.Steve_0
Sep 24, 2003 5:37 AM
From years of riding behind my wife at all hours of the night (ahhh, the days before children), I firmly believe that the ultimate in visability comes from (at least) two seperate blinkies on blink mode. The two blinks become uncorelleated and are much more noticable than one on blink mode, or even two on steady mode.
Can you recommend...gf99
Sep 24, 2003 5:37 AM
A good rear light and reflective material & clothing?

I've always been too worried about becoming a roadkill statistic to road ride at night. I'm taking the plunge this year because I've been having way too much fun to stop as the days get shorter.

Thanks
sure thingJS Haiku Shop
Sep 24, 2003 5:50 AM
i'm using dual cateye LD500RC lights--one on the bike and one on a pack or otherwise. AAA powered (IIRC) and no problems in bad or cold weather. also use jandd ankle straps and 3m reflective tape on the bike, helmet, shoes, and gear, and have had many positive comments.

additionally, i purchased a reflective sam browne belt--the belt/sash combination that you might associate with a crossing guard. it was a bit difficult to find in north america, i think i bought it from a canadian source, but they are readily available in great britain. if i can find the link i'll post it. the thing cost around $20 after shipping, but was worth it--high reflectivity from all direcitons.

also on long/dark rides i usually use a very small camelbak that's made with illuminite material, and it works well for both purposes.

i've seen hemlet-mounted rear-facing red lights that were quite practical and a great idea, but haven't found them in any catalog yet (haven't really been hunting for them, though).

best of all, though, is combo of reflective tape applied to bike and gear liberally, and rear-facing red lights.

hope this helps!

-J
yupSteve_0
Sep 24, 2003 5:52 AM
ankle straps and/or tape on shoes is most important. Motion detected much more easily than fixed.
one more thoughtJS Haiku Shop
Sep 24, 2003 6:03 AM
though i don't do it, i plan to rememdy the situation:

at dusk and dawn are two pretty dangerous times to ride, even with reflective gear and rear-facing lights. why? some motorists don't use headlights at these times. reflective gear is only functional when it has direct light to reflect.

front-facing and 360*-vis lights are also recommended. perhaps red, white, or colored lights on the front fork legs or other areas, or running headlights until fully light or fully dark outside, would be advisable.

the cateye EL300 (5 LED) lights i use for dark riding are ideal for this, as they have an exceptional runtime (20-30 hours on 4 AA batteries), and are highly visible (from the immediate direction only, not 180* or 360*). others for side-lighting would also be required.
Rear helmet light...get a belt-attached VistalitePseuZQ
Sep 24, 2003 10:08 AM
..and and use with a small headlamp. I use the AuroraTec s led, and stick the blinkie on the elastic headband around my helmet. Can be secured with zip ties.
Can you recommend...clintb
Sep 24, 2003 9:15 PM
I highly reccomend the Vistalite Total Eclipse. It has 7 LEDs, runs on two AAAs, has solid, blink and scroll modes. I've had people in cars tell me that they could see it from "way back there" while they're pointing.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=&subcategory=&brand=&sku=3301&storetype=&estoreid=
awesometarwheel
Sep 24, 2003 6:03 AM
One of my riding buds has the bar-end lights and they seem to work well. For a rear blinkie, I use Vistalites. I've got the Eclipse and another model I can't remember name of but it's bigger. The Eclipse is lighter and more compact and works well. The bigger one is more visible and batteries last a lot longer (AA vs. AAA). I use my lights in blinkie mode rather than steady because I'm a cheap bastard and the batteries last longer that way. Personally, I find the blinkie mode more visible than steady when I'm riding behind other cyclists with lights. I also have little strips of reflective tape on my pedals and a few other strategic locations.
on pedalsSteve_0
Sep 24, 2003 6:10 AM
...i'm not sure, because I've never seen anyone do this, but I would think your foot could easily prevent light from reflecting on the pedal tape. I would think on the heal of hte shoe would be more effective.
Red lights and drunk drivers...PsyDoc
Sep 24, 2003 6:16 AM
Be careful using non-blinking red lights on your bikes. Research shows that drunk drivers will focus their attention on the red light and steer right into it. I do not know if similar pattern would be found with blinking lights, but I would think that the blinking would keep the drunk driver from "zoning" on a blinking red light.
"target fixation".Steve_0
Sep 24, 2003 6:18 AM
common phenom amongst drunks and motorcyclists. Same would probably occur with blinkie lights (ever see the 'cops' episodes where the drunks slam into the trooper car with 700 lights flashing?)

Steve
(who really has no idea what he's talking about).
Cover your bases..spluti
Sep 24, 2003 6:37 AM
visibility is always circumstantial. The movement of the spot on the pavement from a good headlight (white light) is also a piece of the puzzle. The sumation of these posts is to "mix it up". If for no other reason, redundancy is good.
Be very mindful of your route.
I like "Tire flys"dzrider
Sep 24, 2003 7:09 AM
They screw onto schraeder valve stems or adaptors, blink and rotate which makes a good size trail on each wheel. They are almost invisible to me but fellow brevet riders were really impressed with how visible they are at night. They come in lots of colors, some of which cost more, but yellow is one of the cheap colors and very visible.
I'll be putting those back on my bike soon...biknben
Sep 24, 2003 7:37 AM
I used Tire Flies on my commuter last winter. Once the clocks change, I'll be putting them back on. They are an easy way to gain more visability. They blink while rotating with the wheel. That's sure to catch people's eye.
You don't have to turn them on/off (it's automatic) an the batteries lasted all winter and still work on mine.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/product.jhtml;$sessionid$0TVDQVYAAAPDQQSNDV1CFE0CJUOXKIV0?CATID=194270&BQ=jcw2
Yeah, but how many grams? :-) nmTower
Sep 24, 2003 8:35 AM
lighter (and cheaper!) version at Radio Shack for $5shawndoggy
Sep 24, 2003 10:24 AM
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=61%2D465

I used these last year. Don't come with extra batteries like Bikenben's and they are plastic, not aluminum. But for $5, no better buy out there!
they break much easier and don't work as wellColnagoFE
Sep 24, 2003 11:29 AM
I have both versions. The $5 ones do not last that long for some reason. I think both are plastic. The activation mecahnism is also unreliable in the cheaper version.
See Light Blasters as wellColnagoFE
Sep 24, 2003 9:12 AM
http://www.fewture.com/lightblaster/

In addition to Screader thread on, you can get magnetic ones that stick anywhere.
Beware the blinking lightspedalAZ
Sep 24, 2003 9:32 AM
It was a dark and stormy night. A dense fog blanketed the valley. Hamilton Tyler was on a solo training ride with his bar end blinkies on, hoping they might prevent him from being struck by a car as he spun away.

Little did Hamilton realize that his bar end blinkies, flashing between 16 and 20 times per second, and reflecting off the enveloping fog, would soon induce Photic Stimulation, or Flicker Vertigo.

He blinked and shook his head as the reflections suddenly appeared to increase in brightness. The light got wider, then, almost instantly, grew to a tremendous size and brightness. Hamilton let out a gasp as his arms began to jerk about. His mouth twitched as he fought to shout out and still, the light grew. The urge to escape the light, now huge and dazzling, brought an inner command to dump the bike hard over, kick out of the pedals . . . . . .anything. Fully conscious, wanting desperately to do anything to escape the light. For a brief moment he felt paralyzed.

Within an instant, his back arched in one long agonizing spasm. His muscles jerked, twitched and convulsed, driven, driven by unknown and puzzling commands. His head snapped wildly from side to side without purpose or intent. Yet,
through all this, his faculties remained.

The lights, the lights, it had to be the lights!!! He squeezed his eyes shut as tightly as possible. That single act of self-defense signed his own death sentence. Closing his eyes changed the light to the orange-red of his own blood. His eyelids restricted all incoming light to that one colour, that diffused red.

That was all he would ever know. His muscles now rigid, commanded by an unknown force, his body frozen and unmoving, his mind a total blank.

The bike continued its rolling, uncontrolled tightening turn toward the guard rail, 500 feet above the valley floor. As he accelerated through 45 mph, still rolling, with his hands frozen on the hoods, the front wheel hit the guard rail at a hard angle, forming the inevitable taco, snapping spokes like dried angel hair pasta in the hands of an untrained chef. A microsecond later, the carbon fork snapped off at the crown, before smashing into slivers of black fiber, swinging madly by the brake cable. The frame hit next, crumpling like plastic straws that won't penetrate a drink lid, as Accelerade fuel from ruptured water bottles atomized into the heavy air. After launching over the guard rail, and hurtling helplessly through the air, Hamilton's life was terminated by his body's impact with the ground below, exploding like a hefty bag full of vegetable soup.

- Journal of the Ohio College of Medicine Otherwise Entirely Neglected (OH COME ON), January 2001.
Good one! ROFLMAO! (Slow day for you, too?) nmThe Walrus
Sep 24, 2003 9:38 AM
They don't like waterdesmo
Sep 24, 2003 11:57 AM
I bought a pair last winter as I ride year round. Thought they were pretty nifty. But they failed after one very wet ride. The water that gets wicked in from the bar tape was enough to cause a short. Maybe packing them in grease or wax would prevent this. Maybe I'll dig them out this year and try again.