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Tire question(11 posts)

Tire questionZman
Sep 24, 2003 4:18 AM
I use Shimano 7701 (Dura Ace) wheels and GP3's in size 25.

When I need to change or repair the tire due to a flat or just being worn out they are incredibly difficult to take off and even tougher to get back on. Is this normal?

I know that in MTB tires the Conti's are the same way but my Hutchinson Pythons almost fall of by themselves.

Is there a high quality (and high mileage) road tire out there that is easier to repair/replace? I only have experience with the GP3's.

Also, why do road tires cost so much?

re: Tire questionandy02
Sep 24, 2003 4:22 AM
Are they foldable?? If so they are a little easier then non folding tires. I prefer Mich pro race over gp3000 for that and turning control. YOU can carefully put a small drop of a wax lub on a towel and run it around the the edge of the tire bead this will make it go on easier. OR you can buy bead wax.
Sep 24, 2003 5:08 AM
Contis are about half the cost from, although they don't advertise the 25mm size, they maybe able to get some if you e-mail an inquiry.

If you get Ksyrium wheels from totalcycling, it's a good time to stock up on tires, since it does not increase the freight charge.

bike tires direct, who advertises heavily on this site has pretty decent prices.

I just put up with the minor difficulty of installing these tires. They work so well, it's worth it. You may need to alter your installation technique. Once these tires have been on a rim for a while, I've always found them pretty easy to reinstall after a flat. I don't even use a tire tool, just my thumbs.
Even cheaperDropped
Sep 24, 2003 10:08 AM has the GP3000 for $25/each (14.90 GBP) vs. Totalcycling's $37 (22.33 GBP). GBP = Great Britain Pounds.

Too bad the dollar is going down. Last time I ordered a batch from sdeals they cost me less than $24 each --delivered. Or exactly 1/2 what my LBS charges for a GP3000. Something is wrong with the bike part distribution system when I can get a tire sent here from the UK for half what I can buy it for down at my local store.
flawed comparison...C-40
Sep 24, 2003 10:27 AM
The sdeals price is cheaper, but you are comparing a tire only to the price of a tire and a free ultralight butyl tube at total cycling.

Only a year ago they were $25 with a free tube.

Nice to see sdeals shipping to the US. If I remember correctly, they discontinued US shipments for a while. Took them off my favorites list when that policy began.
How do you pay the bill?Zman
Sep 24, 2003 10:33 AM
Do use your V/MC or what?
credit card like any other mailorder (nm)C-40
Sep 24, 2003 2:27 PM
True . . .Dropped
Sep 24, 2003 2:49 PM
Good point, but add in a $5 tube and sdeals is still around $7 cheaper than totalcycling.

And either one is still a hell of a lot cheaper than my LBS.
Try the Kenda KonceptHAL9010
Sep 24, 2003 10:56 AM
These are available through Supergo (and I'm sure others) and run about $14ea. Not too sure if the Koncept comes in 25c size. They fold, wear like iron, grip the road, and don't kill your thumbs or require a tire tool to remove or replace.
Old school trick...russw19
Sep 24, 2003 8:02 PM
ZMan, next time you go to change your tires make sure you have a little bottle of talc or baby powder on hand. Put a little talc inside the tire and coat the tube with a little too. It should make the tire go on and off a little easier.

good tires, good pricestarwheel
Sep 25, 2003 4:40 AM
Send an email to They have a wide selection of quality tires for great prices -- eg, Michelin Pro Race for about $28, Axial Carbon for $24. I think they also carry Conti GP 3000s.

As far as your difficulty changing tires, do you use tire tools? I've got some inexpensive plastic ones that I got at Performance for a couple bucks that make tire changing very easy. If you're using tools and still have problems, your rims might be a little on the large side. I have never had any trouble installing a wide range of tires on my Mavic Open Pros using tire tools. Have tried Michelin Axial Pros, Michi Hi-Lites, Conti GP 3000s, Panaracer Stradius (the easiest to install). I always use foldable tires with kevlar beads.