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Sub 4 hour 100 mile time trial!(18 posts)

Sub 4 hour 100 mile time trial!ohmk1
Sep 23, 2003 6:26 AM
This post is from the alt.rec.bicycles message board by Ed Gin. I thought it might interest all speed freaks.

This last Sunday, we held a 100 mile TT on a surveyed and certified
18.39 mile circuit in rural Chicagoland. Completing 5 laps plus a 8.05
mile stretch was required. Official riders qualified having
accomplished 4 and half hour century rides on their own with no

Results were as follows:

In the European standard Stock class bikes, the "officially tested"
class for the inaugural Sub 4 . The winner by a scant 97 second lead is

Frank Geyer, on his one of a kind splitter framed Jester lowracer with
Razz Fazz generation 2 tailbox. He ran a 3 hr. 53 min. 49 second time
for a 25.697 mph average with two pee breaks.

Alan Ariail, on his Razz Fazz 2 with Tailbox and wheel discs, having led

the race/TT for the majority of the time
succumbed to Franks relentless pace the last 30 miles with NO stops for
the hundred miler and resultant dehydration state. It was a nail biter
the last lap and a half as the lead changed several times. His 3 hr.
55 min. 26 second result for a 25.504 mph average, is a victory in
accomplishing the events goals.....SUB 4, a 100 miles of speed!

In the HPRA (USA) stock class bikes, un-official entrant, Keith Santiago

finished a very difficult 4 hr. 29 min.10 sec good for a 22.297 mph
average riding a stock Baron with carbon rear wheeldisc.

Finally, Warren Beauchamp riding his Cuda' a fully faired streamliner
(HPRA Superstreet class) modified for ventilation via the removal of his

slick canopy, and sporting new rear coroplast panels was slowed from his

victory speeds of Northbrook and managed a 3 hr. 36 min. 32 second time,

27.739 mph average on this day. He vows to be the first SUB 3 rider with

new plans next time around. And yes, his fall and 2 stops did add a lot
of time to his run.

For current internet discussion regarding this event, go to the below
boards for more information:
all bents? nmDougSloan
Sep 23, 2003 6:34 AM
Let's see how they do on a hill climb time trial. (nm)CHRoadie
Sep 23, 2003 6:40 AM
Let's see how they do on a hill climb time trial.ohmk1
Sep 23, 2003 7:43 AM
Those guys would probably do ok.
You're trying to discount their achievements because it's a flat course. Do you feel the same about track racers. They don't have hilly track races(unless it's the Kissena Velodrome). Would you discount a track racer's achievements in a velodrome as well?
Oh no! The shame!Nigeyy
Sep 23, 2003 8:32 AM
I can't bear the thought of some nerd posting a really fast time on a *recumbent* hence I will denigrate it by questioning hill times.....

Mmmmmm sour grapes on this one I think. Strangely, no recumbent rider posts "Let's see how they do on a downhill/flat time trial" when there's a fast diamond frame time trial time posted.

Kudos to the guy riding -regardless of the bike used, that's an achievement in itself and that shouldn't be lost.
My point isCHRoadie
Sep 23, 2003 8:49 AM
How excited can you get when you design a vehicle to do one thing (going fast on level ground), and then you take it out on the road and it actually does what you designed it to do? Full aerodynamic fairings make a huge difference. Can you use one of these bikes to set the hour record? or compete in a race anywhere? How excited did you get when the world record for speed on a bicycle was set? Did it take anything away when you found out that the guy was riding about a foot behind a car with a giant wind screen on it?
Racing bentsTWD
Sep 23, 2003 9:07 AM
"or compete in a race anywhere?"

Umm, actually, a fair number of our local time trials have a bent category. Not to mention that the original post seems alot like a race to me. So, I guess you can race them somewhere.
Racing bentsCHRoadie
Sep 23, 2003 9:23 AM
You're still talking about a single discipline (going fast on relatively level ground). And even then they have to have their own category.
Racing bentsohmk1
Sep 23, 2003 11:56 AM
Actually racers on bents used to win European road races prior to being outlawed by the UCI...
solo racesDougSloan
Sep 23, 2003 9:24 AM
They race solo, timetrial style, as far as I know.

The Furnace Creek 508 has HPV classes, including streamliner now. However, the bent record is quite a bit slower than the racing bike style. Now, that could be simply because faster riders are not riding bents, or could have something to do with hills, heat (in fully faired you'd die), wind, rough roads, or basically being restricted to one position on a bent for a day and a half. Don't know. Would be interesting to see a top notch ultra rider attempt it on a bent.

I think you missed mine ;^)Nigeyy
Sep 23, 2003 10:00 AM
When I read your post, it seemed awfully close to denigrating a good performance -regardless of other factors such as fairings, bicycle type, etc... I can get excited when I feel that a remarkable physical performance has been put in.

And recumbents are hardly one dimensional things -because of (usually) better aerodynamics, and given all other things equal as they can be, they can go faster downhill and on the flat. Two out of three ain't bad! My point was why you chose not to say "Wow! That's a great time!" rather than "Ha! What about going up hills?".

Concerning setting hour records/racing, that's another story about questionable motives and decisions by the ICCF -and I still think that was a pretty good performance!
Ok, ok, I'll give to yaCHRoadie
Sep 23, 2003 11:47 AM
I'm done ruffling feathers for today! :-) I wonder what time a top-notch pro would have put up?
well recumbents are fast, we know that.cyclopathic
Sep 23, 2003 12:35 PM
now sub-4 on standard road bike, hmm
Anyone know the record for a century on a roadbike?nmohmk1
Sep 23, 2003 12:56 PM
solo or drafting? nmDougSloan
Sep 23, 2003 1:04 PM
Post it all, if you have 'emohmk1
Sep 23, 2003 1:21 PM
solo, drafting, flats, hills, etc.
Anyone know the record for a century on a roadbike?nmCat 3 boy
Sep 23, 2003 2:36 PM
The UK Time Trial Record for A road bike (with tri bars)...
is 3 hrs 22mins & a few seconds :)

How about USA??
A year or so back, somebody here claimed ...Humma Hah
Sep 23, 2003 3:00 PM
... a sub-four-hour century pace in the HHH. Claimed a peloton formed and lit off across the flatlands of Texas like the law was after 'em. The winds and temperature were supposedly favorable. When all was said and done, they finished in something like 3:49.

But that's not fair in a time trial. Solo, even faster than that peloton? Quite impressive!