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water tank?dmw010
Sep 22, 2003 12:17 PM
I rode a century last weekend and saw a couple of people riding with some kind of water tank mounted on their bikes. It was plastic and teardrop shaped, and it had what looked like a regular water bottle stuck in a hole on top. It was mounted either on a rack or on the seatpost (I don't remember which). Looked like it could hold about 6 bottles worth of liquid. Anyone know what it was and where I might find it?
why?cyclopathic
Sep 22, 2003 12:35 PM
I can't see using more then 8-12oz/hr, for century you don't need more then 40-90oz. If use more consider using electrolyte pills, you're running out of electrolytes.

Centuries have checks to refill bottles, I usually ride with 2 bottles. In summer trick is you finish water ~15min before check, get to checkpoint drink one bottle and take 2 on board.

If it is extremely hot I put 3rd bottle in jersey pocket. With 2 bottles and camelbak you can ride most hot summer centuries non-stop
why?dmw010
Sep 22, 2003 12:56 PM
I drink 4-6 20oz. bottles on a century, at least 3 of which contain an electrolyte solution, plus gels containing electrolytes, PB&Js, and bananas. My problem is that the waterstops almost always use city water, which is heavily chlorinated and causes me a mild allergic reaction affecting my breathing (not good during aerobic sports). I can't carry more than 4 bottles max, so I've got to refill at the waterstops. If I could carry all the water I need, it would be much better. And I don't like using a Camelbak on long road rides.
why?FTF
Sep 22, 2003 4:30 PM
Its called the NeverReach system. Its mainly used for tri's and the like. anyways you can get it here: http://www.trisports.com/nesy.html

And the company website is here

http://www.neverreach.com/page/page/276159.htm

Hope that helps
Thanks FTF! That's exactly what I was looking for.dmw010
Sep 24, 2003 7:54 AM
why?cyclopathic
Sep 23, 2003 8:15 AM
Gas stations usually sell water in gallon jars for .99-2$. As you I don't like Cbak, b/c back pain and have stomach problems with tap water.
Not enough liquid for most peopleKerry Irons
Sep 22, 2003 4:50 PM
The standard recommendation is 1 oz per mile in "normal" conditions with up to 2 oz per mile in very hot/humid conditions. Obviously depends on how much you sweat, how hydrated you were at the start, etc. It has to be very cool weather before I comfortably do 100 miles on 50 oz of fluid. You say yourself that you drink 5 bottles (120 oz if large size, 100 oz if standard size) which is higher than your recommendation, unless you are taking 10-12 hours to finish the century.
re: Not enough liquid for most peoplecyclopathic
Sep 23, 2003 8:47 AM
Kerry, I can't see drinking 2oz/mi, with typical avg 15-20mph you'd end up drinking 30-40oz/hour, way too much IMHO.

I did a double metric last Sat, temp ranged from 68 at start to 86 at finish and I drank 2 20oz, 2 28oz and 1 SoBe, 20oz. To my excuse route wasn't flat, and we raced it finishing in 7hr total, including stops. If it were social pace ride /which centuries are all about/, it'd take me ~1.5-2hr more, and half the water. My liquid consumption could have been lower, if I didn't do ride w/o taking off leg warmers, and arm warmers for first half.

Taking 16.5oz/hr came close to messing up my stomach. The guy I rode with did it on 2 20oz bottles, with 1 top off. Drinking over 100oz of water w/o adequate electrolyte intake will mess up your body been there/done it.
in hot weatherDougSloan
Sep 23, 2003 9:10 AM
First, your body (and your brain) will adapt to drink much more if you train it to by drinking lots in hot weather. Here in the desert, I have ridden 200 miles solo over 100 degrees, full sunshine. You can only do that drinking lots of water; for me, this can easily exceed 32 oz per hour. Of course, I'm heavy on the salt and other electrolytes, too. One thing that helps is to have a countdown timer on a watch and set it for frequent intervals, like 8 minutes, and drink small amounts each time. This makes a more constant supply, and is easier on the stomach.

Doug
everybody is differentcyclopathic
Sep 23, 2003 1:20 PM
we rarely have temp over 100, though 95 is common, and with 70-85% humidity it beats you up as bad, esp on sustained climbs. If you don't measure your effort you end up with uncontrollable run off, and sweating doesn't cool.

Some may be better adapt, and guys 1.5 times bigger then my 140lbs can handle more, right?

I have sensitive stomach even with endurolytes, drinking 32oz/hr for more then 3hr would turn enjoyable ride into misery. In preparation for PBP I did 372mi ride (200 on 1st day and 172 on 2nd). Last 35mi were the worse miles I did this year, even last 1000km on PBP with blown knees no comparison. I ran out of electrolytes, couldn't drink water, I stopped at least 4 times at gas stations to get cold SoBe, to cool down.

8-16oz is what UMCA recommends, most seasoned ultra riders/RAAM racers do not drink as much for the same very reason. I do not know how pros could handle racing TdF this year with high temperatures. No surprise so many were messed up, even with IV.