Sep 22, 2003 12:00 PM
|I recently went and had a Serotta bike fitting. Thinking about a custom Steel bike. The fit session came out with me on a slightly compact frame design with a slight (2cm) rise in the handle bars.
That goes against every thought I had. I thought I would only go with a classic design (currently ride a 21 year old trek) with a very slight drop. AM I WEIRD? DOES ANYONE ELSE RIDE WITH A RISE. I am very unflexable. Thanks Fred
Sep 22, 2003 12:14 PM
|Although the specs I walked out with were for a traditional horizontal top tube. When I went in to my frame builder, we re-designed it into compact geometry, but with the same saddle and bar positioning relative to the BB. My hamstrings are tight as drum skins, to the point the fitting guy was almost laughing at me. The game plan we came up with will allow me to change stems and pull some spacers from the steerer tube as I gain flexibility through gym work and riding. I wanted to be assured that I wouldn't end up wanting a different frame as I got more flexible.
One together with you in Fredliness.
|It depends............||Len J|
Sep 22, 2003 1:21 PM
|on what you mean by a rise.
Threadless stems (Found on most current road bikes) don't allow for as much adjustment as threaded stems (in general), therefor, unless you want either many spacers or a riser stem, the only solution is to increase the length of the headtube. The only two ways to increase the headtube (& still be able to standover the bike) is an extension above the toptube (which some feel is unsightly (especially if overly long)) or to slope the top tube up (presuming that you don't normally standover the section closest to where it intersects the top tube).
I am 48, and while very flexible, wanted more comfort from my road bike. I believed that the way to acheive this was by having my bars level with my saddle. I didn't want many spacers or a riser stem, so I combined a 2 degree sloping top tube with a 2 cm headtube extension and an 84 degree stem to get the bars where I wanted them with 1 cm of spacers. I like the look of it & the comfort is perfect (For me).
If you are uncomfortable with this fitting pay to get another one. I did this figuring that 1.) I was buying a very expensive bike & wanted to be sure of the fitting, 2.) One of the fittings would go towards the purchase price & 3.) I wanted to be very sure of the fitting. How much is piece of mind worth?
PS The more inflexible you are, the more comfortable a more upright p[osition will be.
|I like your approach.||Frith|
Sep 22, 2003 2:42 PM
|A bit of spacers, a bit of HT extension, a bit of TT slope and a bit of stem rise all probably combine to make a balanced looking bike without a lot of drop. Can we see a pic?|
Sep 22, 2003 3:09 PM
|I haven't taken a picture since I lowered the bars to their final position (I was recovering from a back injury & had it originally cut with 2cm of spacers, I have since lowered it as my back has healed).
PS I'll try to remember to take one this weekend when I'm home (I'm out of town))
|I don't like it||pedalAZ|
Sep 22, 2003 3:42 PM
|It seems all the tweaking is being done to preserve a certain look, so as to not attract the attention of the Fred police. For my build, I will be starting off with 1.9cm of spacers, and a stem with 6 degrees of rise (measured against the steerer tube). Both acts are offenses in CORA (Code of Roadie Aesthetics). As I gain flexibility, I can lose spacers and flatten out the rise by changing (or flipping) the stem. CORA be damned!|
|It had nothing to do..........||Len J|
Sep 23, 2003 3:15 AM
|with the stem police.
It had to do with:
1.) How "I" like a bike to look
2.) Fewer spacers on a carbon steerer tube seems safer to me.
3.) Did I mention that I like the way it looks
You do your thing & I'll do mine.
Just ride baby ride.
|Thanks Len, Great Advice. NM||copenhavertl|
Sep 22, 2003 8:55 PM
|re: SEROTTA FIT????||bugleboy|
Sep 22, 2003 3:40 PM
|Maybe you should try and go to a place the sells Seven. The employees at the shop are the ones doing the measuring, but seven will interview you and help you find the right fit. just a suggestion. Plus I think that Seven is the only custom company that can custom tune the bike riding qualities. It's definetly worth looking into.|
|re: SEROTTA FIT????||lyleseven|
Sep 22, 2003 3:57 PM
|Ditto as to Seven. They customize everything.|
Sep 23, 2003 3:19 AM
|Seven is not he only bike that custom tunes ride qualities. Both Spectrum & Serotta will tune the ride also. What seven does is ask the questions about ride qualities in a way that is intuitive and easy for an inexperienced cyclist to understand. One of the fitters I used for my Serotta used the seven questions to help me focus the ride I wanted in my Serotta.
What he needs to do is find a good fitter that he has confidence in, whether or not it's a seven dealer or a serotta dealer is secondary.