|Dear God!!! I'm a Fred!!!||Fatnslow|
Sep 18, 2003 10:31 AM
|I promise. This will be my last Fred related post, but I had to say this.
I took a good long look in the mirror last night and realized, to my horror, that I'm wearing MTB shoes and the arms of my glasses regular perscription) are inside my helmet strap. In addition, my socks had a big ol Nike swoosh on 'em (my other socks have a skull and crossbones on 'em) and I was wearing a clearance ugly green and white jersey with a picture of a fish smoking a cigarette and riding a bike on it. Please, when you pass me on the road, try not to throw things. I have feelings too.
Sep 18, 2003 10:51 AM
|You can wear all of the above and still not be a Fred as long as you're faster than the guy who might otherwise label you a Fred. Because no one would admit to being passed by a Fred. BTW, if riding on the road in mtb shoes makes you a Fred then Andy Hampsten is a Fred.|
Sep 18, 2003 11:54 AM
|See Hank...that presents another problem since, as my screen name implies, I am a rather large man. The only time I'm fast is when I'm going downhill with a tailwind.|
Sep 18, 2003 12:56 PM
|Well, the jersey still sounds pretty cool. So are you gonna shave you legs and wear shorts at the next Mopar-related event? If you do my guess is that you'd be called worse things than a Fred. ;)|
|Not true...||Dwayne Barry|
Sep 18, 2003 2:01 PM
|being a Fred is largely independent of how fast you ride, a certain Mr. Armstrong has been bashed on certain newsgroups for behavior/style becoming of a Fred.|
|true, Lance is the uber Fred||gtx|
Sep 18, 2003 2:10 PM
|1) he rides an OCLV
2) check out that stem and all the spacers
3) spinning like that is kind of Fred-like
4) aren't his socks kind of high?
5) he wears Oakleys
|Ive found that those slower just don't get it...||TFerguson|
Sep 18, 2003 4:08 PM
|I do club rides on a Litespeed CX bike with top mounted brake levers and copper colored V-brakes. It has an old sparkley blue, Land Shark steel CX fork and about 40 mm of spacers and a flipped Mutant stem. I wear MTB shoes and use ATAC pedals with a triple crankset. Also, until last month, I wore a Performance jersey and a MTB helmet sans visor. The only ones that I have ever heard say anything were the ones NOT in the rotation when I was.
I was on a ride with one of the local Postie Pros a few weeks ago full kit, carbon Trek. He pulled up beside me and looked me over with a rather confused look on his face, but didn't say anything. It was really quite comical. Carbon Treks, C40s and custom Waterfords are the norm.
|We are all Freds...........||Len J|
Sep 18, 2003 12:01 PM
I'm a Fred who uses a camelback and rides a bike much better than my talent would warrent. I also have been riding for 30 years and do several thousand miles a year. I don't race, yet I like team kits, and i love buying cool new equipement.
So What. We all have an internal need to label others to either make ourselves feel better or to just make sense of the world.
Labels say much more about the one using the label than the person being spoken about.
Just go out and ride. The only important label is cyclist.
|Me too, don't worry about it, ...||rwbadley|
Sep 18, 2003 12:16 PM
|Revel in your Fredness. Be all the Fred you can be. I like the sound of your jersey with the fish/cig/bike combo. I don't know what the deal with the glasses is, mine go on the inside of the straps also.
This happens to me all the time: I'm out on the old Bianchi crossbike. It weighs a solid thirty pounds, the BB is mushy as hell, but it all works nice. T-shirt, shorts, ratstrap pedals. Cranking up one of our local hills, if I happen to pass or get passed by somebody on a "new" bike, they look at my getup with 700x32 tires and immediately work much harder. More so, I've noticed than if I'm on a newer style bike. When I'm on the '63 Raliegh it's the same, but more so... One guy the other day darn near had a heart attack trying to stay ahead of 'the tank'I do the same I guess, but I still find it humorous. I have a couple of very different bikes, and have really noticed the different responses from other riders to each bike (and clothes getup).
I have a funny old recumbent I call the 'parade bike' because when riding it, it's just like being in your own parade. The kid's go "wow! looka that!" The other bikers comment. The ladies flash me their boosms. A lotta fun.
Be Fred, be proud
|"Be all the Fred you can be.", I like it.||theBreeze|
Sep 18, 2003 12:32 PM
|And it's not limited to guys. I have a wonderful female friend with whom I have done several week long tours. She plugs along on her Bianchi and has a great time. She's a lot slower, but at the end of the day she's done the same mileage and every foot of elevation as the rest of us. Now that's dedication. Plus I think she has a lot more fun and notices much more interesting things along the route. She is always asking if we'd seen a certain interesting sign along the road, or a great view; and we would have to say no 'cause we were too busy trying to get somewhere fast.
She calls herself "a Fred in Betty clothing."
|I wear a helmet with a visor on my roadbike...||jimmyihatetoregister|
Sep 18, 2003 12:47 PM
|I need the sun protection on my nose. Count me in.|
|Me too, because I doubt I'll ever make or want to race cat. 2 nm||No_sprint|
Sep 18, 2003 2:10 PM
|Path towards recovery begins with admitting the problem!(nm)||hrv|
Sep 18, 2003 2:48 PM
|Can you post a pic of that jersey? (nm)||TFerguson|
Sep 18, 2003 3:41 PM
|re: Dear God!!! I'm a Fred!!!||lexington476|
Sep 18, 2003 6:01 PM
|Oh man, MTB shoes on the road bike. The Fred police are going to come and get me (officer, I whish to inform you, that I am choosing to resist arrest'). I have one (1) pair of shoes that I use on the road, and MTB bikes (simple logistics, standardization). I even have SPD pedals on the road bike :). Oh, and a triple on the road bike :). And you know what, with this mess I still got 10 out of 24 in a cat 5 race last Saturday. Cat 5, I wonder if that is the Fred category...|
|re: Dear God!!! I'm a Fred!!!||MR_GRUMPY|
Sep 18, 2003 7:06 PM
|If you aspire to be a "real" fred, you need to start riding in a t-shirt with something, non-cycling on it. You need to get a 10-15 year old, out of date helmet, long white sox, rat trap pedals, bar tape that is half off, and of course, one of those mirrors that attaches to the end of the bars. When you look into the mirror, you must swerve two to three feet over to the left. You must also, never ride a straight line.
If you do all of the above things, while wearing cut off jeans, you will qualify as a "true" fred.
|all that plus||Spoiler|
Sep 18, 2003 7:35 PM
|Do you have a cheap Cateye battery light clamped to your handlebars at all times?
Do you have a beard?
Do you have red hair?
All those are automatic bids for Freddom.
Instead of making excuses, we should call a spade a spade.
Sep 19, 2003 8:01 AM
|I got passed by that Fred last week (did you see him too???).|
|re: Dear God!!! I'm a Fred!!!||closet roadie|
Sep 18, 2003 8:26 PM
|I must be the poster child of Freds:
Camelbak: Hot in SoCal on 2hr+ rides, room for stuff
MTB Shoes: Convenience, no money for road shoes/pedals
SPD pedals: Ditto
Triple crank: I'm 50 and Mt Baldy is 16 miles away.
Spacer issues: I still have 2 1/2" of seat-to-bar drop.
Aero bars: Most road time is solo, headwinds every day.
Oakley M-Frames: Hey, I like 'em!
Hairy Legs: Too lazy, I'd rather ride!
I do, however, color-code my outfits (regular MTB and road bike clothing, no race kits) to both bikes, but this most likely does not offset the issues listed above.
I don't give a rat's a$$ if anyone thinks I'm a Fred. I'll make 5,500 miles this year with about a 70/30 ratio of road vs MTB miles, and that's worked in between a 50 hour work week and a 96 mile daily commute.
A riding Fred trumps a lard-a$$ any day....just get out and ride!
|Spot the Fred Contest!||Ken K|
Sep 18, 2003 9:24 PM
|These two Oakley wearing guys were out riding their bikes today. So which one is the Fred?
|What a bunch of anal retentive CRAP!||Dutchy|
Sep 18, 2003 10:16 PM
|Since when has the way someone wears their glasses been such an issue. I have never read such crap in my life, some people are insecure aren't they.
Wear them the way that feels comfortable for you.
It's like comparing a guy with a shirt tucked in to another guy wearing it hanging loose, WHO CARES they can both look cool.
Maybe we should retitle this board to "insecureroadies.com.
I've had enough.
|What a bunch of anal retentive CRAP!||lemmy999|
Sep 19, 2003 4:20 AM
|I agree with you, but at the same time I almost think many are poking fun at the "anal retentiveness" of some roadies by taking it to the extreme. If I am taking it wrong and people are really serious about the shaving, glasses, etc then this is worse than being in middle school....|
|Well, I think...||Dwayne Barry|
Sep 19, 2003 4:32 AM
|most roadies who get it, realize it is just a game, kinda fun, no-one's feelings should get hurt. That being said there are definitely Freds out there, people who are just clueless. BTW, the number 1 criteria for Fredliness is how you ride your bike. Not how fast you ride, or what kind of bike, or what you wear (although a T-shirt or regular shorts are hard to overcome!), even not shaving legs doesn't necessarily make you a Fred.|
|isn't that redundant? nm.||Steve_0|
Sep 19, 2003 4:33 AM