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Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / fork(11 posts)

Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / forkDangeruss
Sep 18, 2003 9:18 AM
I'm considering purchasing this frame for the missus. She's riding an alloy Giant TCR presently and finds the ride very harsh. Is the KG 361 frame full CF construction, or are the lugs aluminum? If it's alloy lugged, does that compromise the vibration damping properties of the carbon fiber? The fork has a cro-moly (guessing) steerer, so does this aid or detract from a smooth ride?

Comparing the ride to TI or steel is going to be meaningless to her as she has no experience with either frame material. She's test ridden other carbon framed bikes and liked the feel, but our budget is limited and there's some great closeout pricing on the LOOK frame.

We're not racers, but put in about 100 mi / week at ~18mph avg. Sprinting characteristics aren't an issue.

Comments from LOOK owners greatly appreciated.
Love my KG 361.KG 361
Sep 18, 2003 9:57 AM
One of the best deals on a CF frame out there. Yes, it's aluminum lugged. Rather than deterring from the ride, I think that it enhances it. It rides sort of like a good steel frame, but more damped and lighter. I'm sure your wife weighs less than me, so flex isn't an issue. It is stable, comfortable, and has a "lively" feel to the ride. IMHO, *nothing* rides better than a Look frame.
re: Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / forkyofatchance
Sep 18, 2003 10:08 AM
can't compare to Al (my other bike being steel), but my KG281 is very comfortable, not harsh at all. I believe the lugs are Al on both bikes; the fork on mine is all carbon. In any case, I think the Look is a great bike and a good value at the prices I've seen. The handling is a bit twitchy though - something else to consider.
re: Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / forkswampman
Sep 18, 2003 10:19 AM
If you don't mind me asking where have you seen some good deals on the 361? I have been looking for one for some time now and I have a budget in place since I am getting married in a couple months.
Thanks
re: Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / forkDangeruss
Sep 18, 2003 10:51 AM
http://www.jensonusa.com Frame & Fork $850.00 !! Quite the deal no? In fact thay also have a $1600.00 (might be less now, as the print ad I have lists the frame as $950) complete build with Black Shimano 105 (triple) components that includes a Shimano R540 wheels, Look Ergo carbon seat post, ITM stem, Continental tires, Selle Italia Gel saddle, generic bars.
re: Questions regarding LOOK KG 361 frame / forkswampman
Sep 18, 2003 11:30 AM
Thanks for the info. I will have to check it out.
Very comfortable ride, i.e. good vibration dampening and I rideBrianNYC
Sep 18, 2003 12:00 PM
on many rough surfaces - cobblestones, about to be asphalted streets, torn up concrete, dirt and more (the FDR bike path), etc., and the 361 has always been a great ride.

For the money, I don't think you can get a better CF bike.

Yea, it flexes, but like the poster said above, I am sure I weigh a lot more than your wife.

Jenson has been lowering its price on the 361 all year it seems, but also check out the other on-line retailers that sell Looks.
Thanks for the input.Dangeruss
Sep 18, 2003 12:38 PM
Sounds like a winner so far. The reviews here on the 2003/3 versions are overwhelmingly positive, so I think I'll order it up tomorrow.
check excelsports as wellbianchi boy
Sep 18, 2003 2:11 PM
You can also find good prices on Look 361 frames at www.excelsports.com
Love it, but note geometry ...orange_julius
Sep 19, 2003 4:45 AM
KG said it right: it rides like a steel bike with some
dampening. The handling is just fine -- the 281 and 381
have tighter handling, from what I have heard. I think the
381 has adjustable rear drops, so that you can adjust
the length of the wheelbase.

The fork has a steel steerer tube (the LDS fork), but
personally I don't mind the additional weight. If you're
concerned, you can go with the LOOK HSC3 1" fork.

I love mine, and I think it's one of the best deals to get
if the geometry fits you. But note that LOOK top tubes
tend to run long, so this might be a problem for people
with shorter torsos. Make sure that your wife can fit
OK on the frame.
Love it, but note geometry ...Dangeruss
Sep 19, 2003 6:46 AM
Thamks. We measured her and her existing bike and I initially thought the 53cm frame would be the best fit, it turns out the 51cm works best (on paper anyway). The top tube is within .5 cm of her current bike and the seat tube is 2cm longer. Her current bike has a sloping top tube, but she has plenty of standover. I'm pretty confident that a few seatpost tweaks and a 90mm stem will come real close to getting it right.