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Cramping-what vitamins or other to take to help?(8 posts)

Cramping-what vitamins or other to take to help?shakyfish
Sep 11, 2003 6:55 AM
I have seen these posts a ways back. I never paid much attention because I had no problems before. I am having some bad cramping lately that of course gets worse with the level of effort. It seems that getting my HR up over 175 or so brings it on quickly and it is very hard to get rid of them once they hit until I get off the bike. Actually I do not know if it is the HR or the breathing, I know the breathing makes it hurt worse.

I get the cramps in two places. At the bottom of my ribcage on either side of my body but usually on the right. The other location does concern me somewhat and that is in my back behind where my heart area is. It seems that heavy breathing really brings this on.

I never really had recurrent cramp problems until recently. The only incident that I can relate this to is a recent ride. The ride was a group paceline. Very high pace and hammering climbs. I was out of my league and ended up cracking. I went off the back and picked up a slower group but was really hurting from the earlier effort.

The last couple of rides since then have brought on the same cramps.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

fish
I think I have the same thingjzinckgra
Sep 11, 2003 8:05 AM
Go to this thread I posted last week and tell me if this is what you are feeling: jzinckgra "Ever get a cramp so bad during a ride, you had to stop?" 9/8/03 8:17am
Anyways, just an update. I went out for a ride last nite and around 25 miles, started feeling the pain again. It didn't hurt as much as last week's ride, but noticeable. About 2 hours after the ride, the pain was almost gone. A friend of mine suggested that maybe I've irritated my psoas muscle in some way. Do a google search on this muscle. It seems very possible this is the problem, since this muscle is used extensively during cycling. I know time off the bike would probably help, but I'm stubborn and since it's not a major debilitation, I'll keep riding. Eventually, as the weather turns colder and the days get shorter, I take some time off.
I think I have the same thingshakyfish
Sep 11, 2003 8:31 AM
That is the pain. It feels a little like what I have heard called a "side stitch". I have had the side stitches before but like you say it is when I am running. Same description as your pain. I agree that it is not electrolytes. My ride was only about 40 mins last night and I had the pain 15 mins into it. Maybe it is a muscle, that would make sense. Feels alot like a cramp though. The psoas muscle I am unsure of but I would not rule it out. I will look into the psoas thinbg a little more.

Thanks
I think I have the same thingjzinckgra
Sep 11, 2003 9:05 AM
Yes, exactly. The runner's "side-stich", which I have gotten at times while running is exactly how it feels on the bike, except when I finish cycling, it still bothers me a little. I also notice it more while in the saddle as opposed to out of the saddle. It's weird, because when I grab my side, it actually hurts more, as opposed to running, where grabbing the muscle actually helps.
I think I have the same thingjzinckgra
Sep 11, 2003 9:01 AM
Go to this thread I posted last week and tell me if this is what you are feeling: jzinckgra "Ever get a cramp so bad during a ride, you had to stop?" 9/8/03 8:17am
Anyways, just an update. I went out for a ride last nite and around 25 miles, started feeling the pain again. It didn't hurt as much as last week's ride, but noticeable. About 2 hours after the ride, the pain was almost gone. A friend of mine suggested that maybe I've irritated my psoas muscle in some way. Do a google search on this muscle. It seems very possible this is the problem, since this muscle is used extensively during cycling. I know time off the bike would probably help, but I'm stubborn and since it's not a major debilitation, I'll keep riding. Eventually, as the weather turns colder and the days get shorter, I take some time off.
re: Cramping-what vitamins or other to take to help?al0
Sep 11, 2003 9:24 AM
http://www.roadbikerider.com/cramps.htm
calcium citrate... trust meChazWicked
Sep 11, 2003 9:57 AM
I carry these vitamins along in my med pack when I do distance road or mountain. I've given them to wobbly legged cramped riders on the side of the trail during the Cascade Creampuff and Leadville. In both cases, the riders who looked like they surely would DNF ended up with times not far off of mine. I've taken them, spun lightly for 20 minutes and felt back in the game. Good stuff.

When you pick this stuff up, be sure to avoid brands with the calcium from oyster shells as they're rumored to not absorb as effectively.

Good luck,
Chaz
here's your answer!The Human G-Nome
Sep 11, 2003 2:06 PM
www.crampnomore.com

sure, it tastes like you're drinking straight ocean water, but you're never going to cramp on this stuff.