|What is the lowest price full Dura Ace bike?||Fez|
Sep 9, 2003 5:52 AM
|I'm helping a friend look for a new bike. So far he has found a full Dura Ace (including hubs and Open Pro rims) group and Ouzo Pro carbon fork for $1,800. The frame is alum with carbon stays. Everything is really nice except for the relatively inexpensive frame.
Any better values out there for a full Dura Ace bike?
|re: What is the lowest price full Dura Ace bike?||jtolleson|
Sep 9, 2003 6:26 AM
|Not for a frame with any name recognition, but the Motobecane Team Champion (I think that's the model name) is probably $100 or $200 less than that. I believe it is sold through www.bikesdirect.com and maybe through other outlets.|
|re: What is the lowest price full Dura Ace bike?||Fez|
Sep 9, 2003 7:03 AM
|Checked the Motobecane out. The good news is it is $200 less at $1,600.
The bad news is it has a Kinesis fork, Alex rims, generic bar, stem, saddle, seatpost.
It may be worth spending the extra 2 bills to get the Ouzo Pro, Mavic rims w/ DA hubs, and nice bar/stem/saddle/seatpost.
|re: What is the lowest price full Dura Ace bike?||pump|
Sep 9, 2003 7:54 AM
|my I ask where you found the $1800 bike?|
Sep 9, 2003 8:14 AM
|right now full DA build kits from Colorado Cyclist and Excel are running around $1400, and that probably includes better built wheels, a better saddle, seatpost, stem and bars. I'm sure there are other cheaper build kits out there, and the price will go down more soon as people start blowing out 9 speed kits (10 speed is due out very soon). So I'd consider shopping for a frame first and maybe up your price range just a wee tad (or you could always downgrade a few things to Ultegra--bb, cassette, brake calipers, etc.). Most shops will charge around $100 to build up a bike, or quite a bit les to just press in the headset and bb. Also check GVHbikes.com|
Sep 9, 2003 10:20 AM
|Its worth matching the components to the frame, but then again, these package deals offered by mailorder houses are pretty hard to beat. The only benefit to buying the frame and components is that you get everything exactly the way you want. If you're willing to be more flexible and take what comes in the package, you'll save a lot of money.
For example, Colorado Cyclist used to (I think they still do) sell titanium Douglas bikes complete. You could buy the same frame from TST for about $600, but you'd be hard pressed to buy an Ultegra kit, the other parts and build the bike and wheels for anything close to what Colorado Cyclist was charging.
|re: What is the lowest price full Dura Ace bike?||laffeaux|
Sep 9, 2003 10:06 AM
|I'd rather have a nice frame with 105, then a cheap frame with Dura Ace. I think your friend's priorities are backwards.|
|I disagree......||BIG RING|
Sep 9, 2003 10:24 AM
|bad components/shifting can kill a ride. Many frames in certain categories, i.e. AL to AL, steel to steel, CF to CF, feel very similar. I would rather build up a cheaper frame with the nest components I could afford.|
Sep 9, 2003 11:45 AM
|The frame he is looking at is still sub 3lb Easton AL w/ carbon stays. Not great, but not bad.
Its a package deal. Any package with 105 isn't going to have a great fork, wheelset, saddle, post, bar & stem. This package has the good stuff for all the parts, not just the groupset.
|If he likes the BIKE (as opposed to just the group and bits),||djg|
Sep 9, 2003 12:51 PM
|then it's a very good deal. If not, not.
If the bike fits well, and he likes the ride, and he doesn't have to swap parts (stem, post, saddle, etc.) on his own dime to get things comfy, and the wheels are welll built, then he's done well. If adjustments need to be made, start adding on costs as appropriate for substitutions, wheel rebuilds, etc.
Certainly if he doesn't like the frame it seems like a bad deal. D/A is good gear, but it's not going to make a harsh ride smooth or impart handling characteristics that aren't already there. And a used--even if mint--AL frame isn't going to fetch much on its own unless it's a name folks want.
I'd agree with the post above that favors a great frame with 105 over a bad frame with DA. 105 and ultegra shift well and dependably, the brakes work, etc. Also, there are some great deals on frames out there these days, as well as on built bikes. I'm not saying he's looking at a bad frame--I know nothing about it. But a reputable tube manufacturer wouldn't be enough for me.