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Giant TCR advanced, worth waiting for?(8 posts)
|Giant TCR advanced, worth waiting for?||Peter E|
Sep 8, 2003 7:25 PM
|I'm on my way to buy a new roadbike. I'm in New Zealand at the moment and will sell my bike here before i go back to Sweden in November, meaning that i will need a new bike for the upcoming season in Sweden. Since it will be winter and snow when i get back I'm not in a real hurry to buy the bike when i get back, wont be able to use until maybe late March anyway
I've always been interested in and liked the Giant TCR and especially the TCR carbon ever since it was released, it also seems to be a very popular bike (seen quite a few at competitions down here) and i haven't read anything bad about it yet. A TCR carbon was one out of 2 choices for the bike for next year but I've now read that Giant is releasing a new model of the TCR carbon next spring, the TCR advanced. http://www.giant-bicycles.com/uk/000.000.000/000.000.000.asp?lArticleID=11289&lMagazineID=1
What do you think, is it worth waiting for or should i go with the usual TCR carbon instead? I'm a little worried about the TCR advanced as it seems to get a little to much weight savings, will it still hold up as a reliable frame? Could it be a good idea to wait with the TCR advanced so they can fix any possible problems in the beginning? As i understand it, the TCR advanced hasn't even been tested/used by their team yet, which usually is the case before the Giant frames hits the market
Another thing that I'm thinking about is the price that this new frame will get, if it will increase much over the current TCR carbon, and what will happend to that frame, will it become a lot cheaper once the TCR advanced is released?
|re: Giant TCR advanced, worth waiting for?||morency|
Sep 9, 2003 5:40 AM
|First of all, the Giant TCR frameset is expensive in Europe, here in Belgium you can't find them cheaper than 1600 euro! (almost 1800 US dollars).
As I have asked Giant Europe about pricing difference with America they said pricing is always made at the beginning of the year, keeping prices for the rest of the year.
So I assume they will become cheaper next year (guessing, I know).
I think they'll go the way TREK did, 5900 for climbing stages and the OCLV120 for flat stages, with equivalent prices.
In each case, if you can buy one cheap in New Zealand, go for it and take it with you so you don't have to pay importtaxes (in Belgium over 30%!).
Also be aware that it's better to save on rotational weight (lighter wheelset).
|hmmm good considerations||CARBON110|
Sep 9, 2003 6:22 AM
|I also obssess over a 100grams on my bikes. But I weigh 127lbs. How much do you weigh? I wouldnt get on a bike like that if you weigh over 175lbs and have alot of power to throttle. The point above is very important. Rotational weight is far more beneficial. If I were you I would expect the frame set to be mucho $$. The regular TCR is a great bike. You will benefit ALOT more though getting a regular TCR carbon and a trainer to ride it on this winter then spending the whole off season on no bike and getting the advanced carbon.|
|hmmm good considerations||Peter E|
Sep 9, 2003 9:14 PM
|i do got another bike back home in Sweden, a MTB. And i usually use it quite alot in the winter if the weather is right. I also got a gym that i can go to for spinning where they have great spinning classes, in other words, to get of season training onbike isnt a problem. Didnt use my roadbike much last winter.
What i altough started thinkin that you guys brought to my attention is that since it is most likely that the TCR advanced will be more expensive, i might be better of buying the "ordinary" TCR carbon and spend the extra money on better wheels.
My weight is about 165pounds
|re: Giant TCR advanced, worth waiting for?||BaadDawg|
Sep 9, 2003 12:31 PM
|Since no one has seen or tried the frame its impossible to give you an answer that's anything other than a guess. For sure it will cost plenty. If money is no object and you want the latest greatest then for sure it will be a sweet ride.
I have a TCR Composite 1 and I love it. Too bad my chain jumped off the small ring and got wedged between the chain stay and the small chain ring. It bent the chain (had to walk 5 km home after a 90 k ride) and it also took some chunks out of the chain stay itself.
Gia rep told me it would probably not affect the frame and that Giant does not warranty stuff like that although they do offer frames at half price under their crash protection policy.
Chain came off when changing from the large to the small while I was coasting not grinding. It got jammed because I didnt even know it had come off and half a pedal stroke later it was wedged in.
Still love the bike though.
|ok man you are blowing my mind now.||Frith|
Sep 9, 2003 4:05 PM
|Too many f*ck!n similarities. I don't remember them all but I do remember that you were from canada (ottawa?) and you bought your giant tcr composite 1 the same week as me. |
I don't know if you saw it but i posted about a similar (screw that "exact" is more like it)problem with my chain getting stuck btwn the chainstay and little ring. It happened in the exact same manner as you describe..coasting not realizing the chain had jumped then pedaling thereby causing the wedge.
I was initally worried about structural damage to my chainstay but was assured by my lbs that it was surface only and could be touched up with a bit of clear nail polish. Maybe we could take some pics and compare the scars.
|ok man you are blowing my mind now.||BaadDawg|
Sep 9, 2003 6:11 PM
|email me email@example.com to discuss. Not that discussing will change a damn thing but my chunked chain stay has pissed me off and being blown off by both Giant and my lbs hasn't made me feel any better either. My chain jumped while I was friggin coasting going from large to small while in 3rd or 4th largest cog on rear.
There is an ugly thing you can get some kind of chain guard which prevents the chain coming off the small ring and my point to Giant is that if the bike is so easily damaged from this kind of thing then the guard should be standard equipment.
They are telling me no it was my fault the chain overshifted. Ya right!!
Still love the bike though although a bit less since this crap happened.
|Uhm, fellas _frames_ are not to blame for chainsuck...||BergMann|
Sep 9, 2003 8:49 PM
|Hate to break it to you guys, but this is a _drivetrain_ problem. Thought about going to Shimano and asking for compensation?
Yes, carbon is prone to gouging and damage when impacted by sharp objects. So is your average beercan-thin-aluminum frame these days.
If your primary concern is durability, you need to pay the weight penalty and switch to Ti.