|do you ever lend out your bike?||ET|
Sep 8, 2003 6:05 AM
|A neighbor up the block asked me if I could lend him my bike next month. You see, his Cat4-or-whatever brother-in-law is coming to visit him for a week and doesn't want to stop training while here. The neighbor is all of a sudden interested in cycling due to his brother-in-law (hey, interest doesn't take much effort--I know the neighbor well enough to know he'll never be disiplined enough to get into something like cycling and also has more family "issues" than most that likely would interfere). You know, I think the neighbor may be in for a surprise when they hit the first hill--he's overweight and out of shape. I'd gladly offer to go ridng with the b-i-l myself, which may make more sense, both in terms of partner compatibility and knowing the routes, but then the neighbor would be left out. It's still not clear to me whether the bike would be intended for himself or the b-i-l, as he's not sure the b-i-l wants to risk flying his bike over. If it will be for the neighbor, given he never rode even with clips and straps (his only bike is a cheap family bike he occasionally uses for outings with his kids), he may be in for a big surprise when he discovers his tennis shoes don't fit into my Speedplays. I've offered before for him to come and see my bike so I can explain what's involved in a road bike and why it's kinda pricey, but he hasn't gotten around to seeing it yet. (FYI: The frame size would work for either of them, although my shoe size is way different than the neighbor's.)
So what's your view on lending out your bike? Does it depend on the bike? (It's my Lemond Zurich--OK, not a C-40, but it's the only road bike I have.) Does it depend on who it is? I'm reluctant to lend it out to a raw newbie; I mean, even if he solves the shoe issue (btw, I don't feel obligated to get the pedals swapped), my feeling is he's likely to crash on the bike, misuse the gears, etc. I'd be somewhat more inclined to lend it to his brother-in-law as a favor. What do you think?
|No friggn' way||MR_GRUMPY|
Sep 8, 2003 6:17 AM
|What's he going to ask for next; Your wife ? Show him where he can buy a $300/$400 comfort bike.|
Sep 8, 2003 6:20 AM
|They are durable machines and despite my fondness for it, it is just a "thing." I would absolutely lend it out.|
Sep 8, 2003 10:03 AM
|Iin my mind, I know that you are right. Emotionally, that's another matter, one that I have to learn to deal with. Fortunately, my bikes are 63-64 cm, and not many people can get a leg over them.|
|Depends....(not adult diaper related)||Asphalt Addict|
Sep 8, 2003 6:28 AM
|No one is going to touch my ride (Colnago Monotitan) except your's truly. Now if I still had my Schwinn Varsity, that would be another story. Of course in our lawsuit happy world, if your friend falls down and gets hurt are you going to be liable?|
|Wouldn't do it. I've spent too much time getting the||OldEdScott|
Sep 8, 2003 6:42 AM
|setup tweaked just right. And I don't want strange sitbones reshaping my Brooks saddles. I put a lot of work and miles into getting those things shaped just right.
Beyond that, I certainly wouldn't want to lend a good bike to a newbie, especially one who's NEW to cliplesss. You just know he's going to tumble over.
To deal with this very situation, I keep on hand a beater road bike all set up with good tires and lubed and working bits as a loaner for guests who want to 'go for a ride.' I'm also more than willing to loan out the mountain bike. But my two main rides? Naw.
Sep 8, 2003 6:42 AM
|Being lucky enough to have several bikes, I'm sure I could find something for the neighbor to ride. One that would fit his needs and level of ability. The fixed gear maybe (heh heh). Actually I have an old Centurion that would be perfect for him.
The brother in law could ride a more advanced steed. The only thing is, if you just have the one bike, how will you go for rides with him etc? I would put him on my older steel Celo, and he'd be happy, I'm sure. This does nothing to help in your situation tho.
Offer to help the neighbor locate a bike for him to buy. Maybe a decent used one. This way the neighbor can have his own to ride, and loan it out to his bil at the same time. Decent older bikes are out there and available for a sometimes bargain price.
|from my cold dead hands...||mohair_chair|
Sep 8, 2003 6:45 AM
|No way, no how.
Not a chance.
Not on your life.
|In a word...NO||Fatnslow|
Sep 8, 2003 6:52 AM
|In several words...
I have spent a lot of my hard-earned money on my bikes and the majority of prople just don't care about the stuff they borrow.
There are several LBSs in my area that rent bikes out. You may want to check and see if there are shops in your area that do the same.
Sep 8, 2003 8:14 AM
|But not with the race wheels on.
One nice thing about a steel ebay bargan bike is you can afford to break it.
If it were a light weight high end bike I might have a problem.
|I loaned out my geared MTB for a year ...||Humma Hah|
Sep 8, 2003 8:21 AM
|... to a cute French girl interning with the company. I never need a geared bike anyway.
The cruiser and the fixie Paramount I will let folks ride around the parking lot where I can see 'em. I don't loan 'em out to ANYONE!
Sep 8, 2003 9:03 AM
|Would I lend my record equipped sweet sled to some overweight novice? No. Would I let a fellow rider who I trust? Sure.
Sep 8, 2003 9:33 AM
|I have loaned my older bikes out on several occasions, but never my main road or mtn bike. I have swapped bikes (and wheelsets) with other competent riders for a lap around a trail or 10-20 miles on a group ride, to get a feel for different setups. But I would never ask (nor would they) for a longer term loan of my main rides. Both parties would feel bad if anything was damaged.
Loaning it to your neighbor is out of the question based on the pedal issue alone.
|Maybe not to that guy, but yes I do...||miposy|
Sep 8, 2003 11:20 AM
|It is my general, but not absolute, policy to lend my bike to people who want to borrow it for a ride, but have never lent it long-term.
Worst case scenario-- I get sued or I get an excuse to buy a new bike.
|re: My simple lending rule||hudsonite|
Sep 8, 2003 11:50 AM
|My simple rule, if you cannot afford to lose it, you cannot afford to lend it. If you can afford to lose it, then lend it, otherwise no.
I have leant a friend my bike once and I never saw it again. The bike was stolen while in the possession of the other person and they did not replace it because of money issues. I lost a bike and a friend.
The other part of the question is liability. If someone gets hurt on your bike, how likely are they to sue? Some people are always looking to make their problems the fault of someone else. Other people accept responsibility for there own acts. You can never be sure about a person until it is too late.
As it was mentioned earlier, riding with clipless pedals for the first time is going to cause a minor accident. Maybe nothing more than road rash, but something will happen.
Sep 8, 2003 5:46 PM
|If anything goes wrong, good luck trying to get him to pay to have it fixed replaced.|
Sep 8, 2003 6:22 PM
|Your only bike? What are you going to ride? No way. A lot of shops rent bikes.|
|Yeah what are you gonna ride in the meantime?||Synchronicity|
Sep 8, 2003 10:10 PM
|I'd politely & assertively tell the dude it isn't a beginner bike, you've set it up for you (i.e. seatpost height).
And you also need it for training.
Look, some poeple take adantage of others. If the B-I-L REALLY wanted to keep on training & he was THAT serious, he WOULD have flown his bike over.
If he's ultimately dissappointed by relying on someone he doesn't know, that's his own fault & he'll have learned a valuable lesson: "Never totally rely on others; especially those you don't know."
The very fact that you posted this Q on here shows that you're not all that willing to lend it. Otherwise if you were, you wouldn't be making a fuss on this forum, right?
1 last thing: if your neighbour was TRULY interested, he would've taken you up on your offer of checking out your road bike already. I know if it was me I'd instantly jump at the chance if I was genuinely interested in a new hobby.
|Ha ha ha ha ha!!! LOL!!!! Lend my bike ...LOL!! :O) nm||Live Steam|
Sep 8, 2003 7:12 PM
|Depends on who and the situation.||KG 361|
Sep 9, 2003 5:32 AM
|Last year my b-i-l and family came over from France to visit. He rides (although not as much as most of us) and we rode several times together. He had Look-compatible shoes and rides the same size as me and my beater bike uses spd's so it was just easier. Besides, it was the gracious thing to do. He reciprocated (or should I say, his father) by allowing me to ride his Vitus over there when we visited this year. I would probably not let a neighbor or anyone else borrow my bike unless I really knew them well.|| |