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this may be a vuelta spoiler, but I dont care....(7 posts)

this may be a vuelta spoiler, but I dont care....ClydeTri
Sep 8, 2003 5:50 AM
CIPO is a quitter! He can forget any future TdF races...Cipo is all about Cipo and nobody else....yes, he can sprint..but, he cares nothing about his team.
re: this may be a vuelta spoiler, but I dont
Sep 8, 2003 6:00 AM
How many stages will his "successor" Alessandro Petacchi ride before he jumps on a plane for Italy, too? The Italians may be able to beat riders like Erik Zabel, Bradley McGee and Baden Cooke on individual sprints, but at least Zabel, et al, don't abandon as soon as they smell the mountains (at least the mountains outside of Italy).
he cares nothing about his team???biknben
Sep 8, 2003 6:14 AM
He only entered the race so that his team would be allowed to race. He hasn't trained since June. It looks like he took one for the team.

I too don't care much for Cipo. He has become a bitter old man. He expects organizers to bend over backwards to have him and gets pissy when they don't. He's had huge successes and demands respect but he would get even more if he'd just keep his mouth shut and race.

It a shame to see Pattachi following in his footsteps. If you have no intention of completing a race, you shouldn't enter it.
hold on theremohair_chair
Sep 8, 2003 6:31 AM
Why are you bundling Pettachi in with Cipo? He missed the time cut at the Giro (with 35 others), and he dropped out of the tour because he was sick, along with half of Fassa Bortolo. That's not the same as Cipo's scheduled departures.

The only reason Pettachi is at the Vuelta is because getting sick at the Tour saved him from wiping himself out. As far as I know, no one else even attempted to ride three Grand Tours this year (or any year), so if he wants to drop out, that's fine with me.
Can't remember the name but...Dwayne Barry
Sep 8, 2003 6:43 AM
I think a Banesto rider rode (and completed?) all 3 just last year or the year before. First rider in a while to do so.
I'm not so easily convinced...biknben
Sep 8, 2003 8:26 AM
Pettachi's departure from the Tour was a joke. He got a stomach bug and bailed as soon as the road leaned upwards. He own coach was bad mouthing him afterwards. He would have found an excuse, one way or the other, to bail. The time cut departure from the Giro was equally as convenient. He was screaming "piano" all the way in. The others in that group swarmed him assuming that they wouldn't give the boot to such a large group containing Pattachi.

For these guys to get so much attention coming into the grand tours only to bail takes away from the event. Would you continue to play poker with a guy you knew would split after winning a big hand?

We'll see how long he lasts in the Vuelta.
re: this may be a vuelta spoiler, but I dont care....mackgoo
Sep 8, 2003 10:52 AM
Cipo started because he had to for the team to get in, which they wanted. I'd say he did it for the team. Not all riders compete in every race. Where's Lance? Tyler?