|Is Lance really any different?||Zman|
Sep 5, 2003 7:22 AM
|I am very new to this site. I actually enjoy it and am surprized at how much attention there is. Lots of activity.
I do have a comment about the Lance bashing that is going on.
Is he any worse than Henault, Merckz, or Lemond. He is great because of the way he is. Most people hated Lemond when he came on the scene, now he is a god, as are the other 4 TDF greats. In 20 years Lance will be considered one of the greatest cyclists ever, that is the way it works. Nobody gave Lance 5 TDF's. He and his team worked their collective asses off to achieve this feat.
Maybe he would be more popular if he raped some woman, could spike a ball, could spit if the face of a ref, or kill someone. Those are the popular people in American sports.
I like to look at him for what he has accomplished and that is it. All people have issues, there is no getting around it. Hoping that someone stomps him next year or "drops" him is childish. It is a bike race, nothing more, get over it people. Do not spend so much time on his life, that is his problem. Go out and ride.
Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, if you know what I mean!!!
His peers think he is great now. But what do they know.
|re: Is Lance really any different?||Steve_0|
Sep 5, 2003 7:42 AM
|"Hoping that someone stomps him next year or "drops" him is childish"
I dont think so. Bicycle racing is a spectator sport; as such fans have the inherent right to root for and against whomever they want. It's not childish; its the very basis of spectating, and has been since Roman times.
What is childish is insulting something you disagree with (online debate, which is a wonderful medium for expression) by comparison to the Special Olympics.
It seems to imply the remarkable accomplishments of the physically and mentally challenged are undeserving of recognition. Perhaps the SA's arent important to you, so you choose to 'not spend so much time' on them; but to the families and participants, there's nothing more deserving of recognition of their accomplishments..
Perhaps you should spend LESS time riding for yourself and spend a little time volunteering for others.
Sep 5, 2003 7:54 AM
You may be right.
|re: Is Lance really any different?||Spoiler|
Sep 5, 2003 8:13 AM
|You're right about Lance having the same problems other people have. The problem is that we know so much about him, we start to think we know EVERYTHING about him, so we start assuming and declaring his motivations as if we had ESP.
We all ride bikes and we all are painfully aware of how he can surpass and outclass us all in that area. Some people read this as meaning he also surpasses us in his off-the-bike life situations. When he slips, the people say, "Haa, he was lying, he's a bigger failure than me! We were duped. He's no hero."
America is the most cynical nation on earth. Lance's comeback and success "throws a spanner in the works". The only way to return to normal and to validate our cynicism is to knock him back down.
|Well Said, how about a group hug!||Zman|
Sep 5, 2003 8:28 AM
|You are truly a genius.
The more we know the LESS we really know. All everyone talks about is how much of a d#ink he is regarding his marriage. Correct me if I am wrong but it takes 2 to tango, maybe he is not 100% at fault, how possible could that be. Who cares anyway, I think it is ALL ABOUT THE BIKE!
I like talking about biking and that is what he does and does well.
To take a little pressure off of Lance we can bash me regarding my insensitive remarks (that I regret making).
How about those Twins, yea baby!
|You sure you're American?||Steve_0|
Sep 5, 2003 8:28 AM
|'spanner' in the works sounds awfully British to me.|
|You sure you're American?||Milliet|
Sep 5, 2003 10:01 AM
Does not matter really so long as when you throw it around it does not crash into the bonnet...or boot...or wind screen!
What is the air speed velocity of an African swallow anyway?