|rules of the road?||IDH2|
Sep 4, 2003 2:03 PM
|So I'm new to the road bike scene and I have a basic question to ask. I'm trying to map out a course or two and one of the roads I wanted to use has a small left-hand shoulder...nothing on the right side but a two foot easement on the left - this is a two lane, one-way highway btw. Can I/Should I ride on a shoulder that parallels the "fast-lane"?|
Sep 4, 2003 2:10 PM
|Get of a copy of your states cycling laws and review them. All the states I've lived in require riders to stay as far to the right as possible. That inside shoulder is probably about the most dangerous place you can ride. Some streets are just not good for cycling. This looks like one you may want to avoid. Whats the speed limit for that stretch?|
Sep 5, 2003 5:05 AM
|Agree with Kristin and I just need to add one point. If there is no minimum speed posted, you can take the left lane. Otherwise, avoid that road.|
|oh - now you've done it...||IDH2|
Sep 5, 2003 5:24 AM
|things are getting complicated....the speed limit is posted at 55 - no minimum...it's a relatively simple state road...not a heck of a lot of traffic...
I don't know - I'm going to look into my state law/regulations (MD) and re-evaluate the situation....I'm not trying to get run over for sure...there are a lot of 4 wheel drive pick-up trucks in the area :)
thanks again everyone.
|again, check local stats...||Steve_0|
Sep 5, 2003 6:52 AM
|around here, left lane is legal only if you're your moving with an established line of traffic. This applies to bikes and cars alike (not that its enforced for cars).|
|illegal in California||mohair_chair|
Sep 4, 2003 2:13 PM
|21651. (a) Whenever a highway has been divided into two or more roadways by means of intermittent barriers or by means of a dividing section of not less than two feet in width, either unpaved or delineated by curbs, double-parallel lines, or other markings on the roadway, it is unlawful to do either of the following:
(1) To drive any vehicle over, upon, or across the dividing section.
(2) To make any left, semicircular, or U-turn with the vehicle on the divided highway, except through an opening in the barrier designated and intended by public authorities for the use of vehicles or through a plainly marked opening in the dividing section.
|Not just no, but H&ll no!||MShaw|
Sep 4, 2003 2:15 PM
|You got a death wish or something? Is there another route you can take?
If you're riding on a 4-lane divided highway, you're asking for trouble, unless its one of those "going into a housing development" kind of 4-lane divided highways where the speeds aren't supposed to be that high.
If you HAVE to ride there,
1. Be careful! Ride when there's not too much traffic
2. If I have to ride on a road like this, I'll usually stay out from the edge 1-2' to give myself some maneuvering room.
3. Did I say be careful? We've had too many cyclists dying recently.
4. Don't let the cars intimidate you off the road. Its your right to be there, they're just gonna have to deal with it.
5. Wear bright clothing. That "don't hit me yellow" that Performance likes to sell would be a good thing. Ditto with the safety orange jersey that Peal Izumi sells.
Were it me, I'd try and find another way to get where you're going. I used to have to ride part of Rt. 50 back and forth from Alexandria to Fairfax, and let me tell you, those people DID NOT want me on "their" road. No one ever hit me, but it wasn't pleasant either. The only consolation was going back by them when they're stuck at the lights...
|Many car-bicycle collisions occur...||PdxMark|
Sep 4, 2003 2:41 PM
|when the cyclist is not where he is supposed to be. The prime example is riding on the wrong side of the road - facing traffic. Cars are not even looking for cyclists to be in odd places - such as along a median strip. If the regular shoulder is not rideable, that road is not rideable.|
|re: rules of the road?||t5rguy|
Sep 4, 2003 2:45 PM
|If you happen to live in South east Asia, and ride a small motorbike at ridiculous speeds, dressed in t-shirt and shorts, wearing plastic slippers, I'd say: go ahead, you want to blend in with the crowd.
All other cases: receipe for disaster.
|ok - I get it||IDH2|
Sep 4, 2003 7:02 PM
|Like I said, I'm new...thanks for setting me straight though - there will be more seemingly stupid questions to come :)
In the meantime, I'll hit my lbs up for a good route...