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Teen punks in Momma's SUV...words exchanged..I am not dope!(31 posts)

Teen punks in Momma's SUV...words exchanged..I am not dope!shakyfish
Sep 1, 2003 3:50 PM
Yesterday on a short recovery ride I was pedaling on a divided 4 lane road. These teen boys scream at me while hanging out the window as they pass. I usually just keep my mouth shut and ignore but sometimes your just not in the mood for it. I yelled "shut-up". At the next light I am turning left and they are in the right lane. They are staring me down and one has his head out the window, his hat kicked sideways and laughing at me. I should know better than to provoke any of these types (people in cars acting stupid). I just say "your pretty hard stuff huh?" And then comes the absolute crushing blow of my life. He says "you ain't dope". This really destroyed my self esteem, my whole goal in life is to be "dope". Me, not dope, who'd a thought? We exchanged a few more short sentences and my light changed so off I went. Thankfully they did not follow. I know I could have cleaned the street with a few of them but I will lose every time to 2 tons of steel.

This is just another reminder I guess to myself not to further provoke "cars". I am always couteous and follow the rules of the road but it's hard to always keep my mouth shut when someone is running their's. I have been run off the road before and I know what it feels like.

OH, well. I am not dope.

How do you guys deal with these situations? How can I stop someone before they go as far as calling me "not dope".? : )
Homie your so dopeSprint-Nick
Sep 1, 2003 4:13 PM
G' its good you stood up to those posers. Seriously what kinda homie goes around looking for trouble especially in their mommas ride? I know my momma wouldn't approve of that sh*at going down. So those are the ones who ain't dope. Its good they were all talk. But your totally right... its hard to win in a situation like that so its better to not say anything.

Peace out my brotha'
im sorry, but thats hilarious...rrjc5488
Sep 1, 2003 4:13 PM
Im glad you're ok, and im sorry that it happened to you, because its happened to me and i know how annoying it is. but im also sorry that "you're not dope" how sad. Thats possibly the worst diss i've ever heard. whoever said that should be laughed at by all of the RBR community. lol

dont worry, im not dope either. but thats ok, cause i dont want to be.
You're not dope53T
Sep 1, 2003 4:16 PM
You're not even that smart. How old are you?

"I know I could have cleaned the street with a few of them..." These are not the words of a thinking man.

"'s hard to always keep my mouth shut when someone is running their's." It's not hard for adults. If you have a problem with controling your emotions you might consider therapy. They might be able to prescribe something.
dont be rediculousishmael
Sep 1, 2003 4:28 PM
are you a vulcan or something? Emotions happen, he acted more responsibly than many if not most.

I've had many of my own incidents while on a bike and I've never gotten into physical conflict, but I would have liked to many times.
Don't worry about 53T...Kristin
Sep 2, 2003 6:07 AM
He often posts negative responses and chides other posters. I think it makes him feel better about himself.
Kristin is right53T
Sep 2, 2003 10:21 AM
It does make me feel much better. Let me rephrase my response in a less "negative" way:

YES, you are an idiot to shout at kids in cars. YES, you should stop this behavior. YES, you will eventually get hurt if you don't find a way to control your emotions.

Give him a break...amflyer
Sep 2, 2003 2:28 PM
...the guy/gal must be huge, wearing a size 53 Tall. He's probably a bit sensitive, and can't find a bike to fit him/her.

re: Teen punks in Momma's SUV...words exchanged..I am not dope!dave_w
Sep 1, 2003 5:13 PM
Well, 53t's post is almost as funny as the kids you dealt with, but you may need some counseling to get past the esteem "issues" this will undoubtedly leave you with. :D

ps. For idiots in cars..ignore, ignore, ignore.
Sep 2, 2003 5:37 AM
Why is my post "funny", yet you end your post with identical advice? Why is everyone posting in this thread condoning road rage by cyclists? Did I hear one poster say that he responded better than most cyclists would? I disagree. Most adult cyclists would simply ignore the kids in the car.
Same DealhirevR
Sep 1, 2003 5:15 PM
Yesterday we were on a group ride when the same thing happened. Just as we're pulling away, a pencil neck punk frat brat and his buddy pull off right in their slick new Tahoe (care of Mom and Dad I am sure) and they yell something. Now I commute daily and ride every evening as well and I have heard a lot of things and nevere really lost it. But yesterday was a different story. I decided to pursue. By this point I had wasted some time so I made some turns through the city and then I spotted them about 5 blocks away. I went into full TT...after about 1.5 miles I caught them. They were shocked when I pulled up along side at the red light next to the passenger. I greeted them with a smile and a good afternoon. As they pulled off I hocked one at the passenger --dead on! I gave up the pursuit in my head and then they yelled out the window as they pulled away AGAIN!! Here we went again, I chased them down for another mile at least and I CAUGHT them AGAIN at another light. This time I rolled by them and shot extran at the driver. They called me queer and something else but I didn;t catch it. I don't care what anyone says, I felt redeemed. About 20 minutes later they passed me on another road (I swear they had nothing better to do) but I was back with my group (about 13 of us) and they just drove by. The group and I followed them for awhile but soon got to the end of our ride. I feel sorry those sorry bastards. Maybe you think I am a jerk or whatver, but like another postee stated, sometimes your emotions get you and I couldn't take it anymore--not from some college out-of-towner! There's a lesson of integrity and social highway harmony in here somewhere as I am sure to have pointed out.
Bet you ain't phat, either. (nm)PseuZQ
Sep 1, 2003 5:17 PM
Birds-a-flyingInspector Gadget
Sep 1, 2003 5:32 PM
As unwise as it may be, I've become pretty adept with the middle finger.
I usually get no mare than a horn beeping at me when I drift into the lane to avoid the pot holes of death that are so prevalent in RI. Needess to say, I end up in the lane quite often. Usually, I hear to quick beeps, which I interpret as a cautionary warning from the driver who wants to be sure I know he's there. Today, I got one of those pricks who likes to lay on the horn for extended periods. This time, I was well out of traffic. He was just a road hog putz. Anyway, up went the finger in grand fashion. It's juvenile, I know, but I agree: somehow, I feel vindicated. It's like getting in the last word.
The Comeback......Lone Gunman
Sep 1, 2003 5:46 PM
HEY!!!....(got their attention, waiting for you to say something profound) YOUR HAT IS ON CROOKED!!!
ask him if he got a bowl of soup with the hat!!!(nm)merckx56
Sep 2, 2003 3:07 AM
or...if they sell men's clothes where he got his hat!(nm)merckx56
Sep 2, 2003 3:08 AM
Goofy kids...NatC
Sep 1, 2003 6:40 PM
I got run off a dirt road last year while on an mtb ride. On their way back, the kids (suburban wannabe-gangsta types) even stopped to yell at me for "almost making them lose control of their 4wd." I called the Sheriff to report what happened (I got the license plate #), and asked the Deputy to call the driver. The boy wasn't home yet, but the Deputy talked to the kid's mom. He told me that the kid's mom said, "Believe me, I'm VERY eager to take care of this situation." I don't know what the outcome was, but I can imagine the look on his face when the kid got home and his mom told him the Sherriff called to say his reckless driving is inappropriate.

According to the Deputy, a stern and scary personal phone call from Law Enforcement is usually pretty effective with mostly-good-but-trying-to-act-hard kids.
Sep 1, 2003 7:55 PM
You shouldve gotten a tool or something out and make a huge scratch on the car or try to break the windows or something. And then be like now what b**** who's teh pimp daddy now.
Who needs a tool when there's a nice metal cleat..MShaw
Sep 2, 2003 9:02 AM
...on the bottom of your shoes?

Why are we not supposed to react to these punks?empacher6seat
Sep 1, 2003 11:07 PM
The first time I reacted to punk kid drivers was last year when I was run off the road by some. I got them back by throwing a rock at their SUV which actually broke the rear windshield (they had stopped and were slowly backing up). Ever since then, I've made a point to evaluate the situation at hand. 99% of the time when I'm being harrassed by rowdy youths in their parents cars, I really try to give them a scare because

1) They're driving their parent's car, and they think mom and dad will most likely barbeque them for dinner if something happens to the car.

2) If they do try to get you in trouble for reacting, they still have to explain to their parents how they got in to the situation in the first place.

3) They're usually so inexperienced at driving that they get scared and drive off if someone threatens them.

I've done things like squirt water in open windows, copy down plate numbers and show them to drivers at the next light (yes, I carry a pen and scrap of paper when I ride). The closest I've gotten to actual physical harm was when I had to bunny hop onto the curb to avoid a truck that was chasing me. When I got there, I tossed my bike on the grass, walked up to the stopped truck screaming and making a big brou-ha-ha, started banging on the door trying to get him to open it. The driver who originally looked like he really wanted to stick it to me was petrified, and his face was saying "this guy's out of his freakin' mind!" and he took off.

Giving these kids a good scare is probably far better for them then letting the police give them a slap on the wrist. Do speeding tickets ever make kids stop speeding? Not usually, but once they're in their first fender bender, they almost always slow down. I think it's the same thing with cyclists. When I was a kid and I was getting myself into trouble, I would be much more scared if I had a close enounter with someone much bigger and stronger then I was opposed to getting a stern talking to.
Emacher, there is a body bag out there somewhere with your name on it.Kristin
Sep 2, 2003 6:22 AM
You're right. If you go ballistic, 99% of all people will back down. I'm agressive, and I don't take a lot of crap from people--this is something I'd like to see changed in myself--but I only take it so far. If the other person wigs bigger, I'm outta there. You're method will work until you encounter that 1% guy who is truly wacked and he will put a bullit in your head or flatten you into a pancake...and you may never ride again...or breath again, for that matter. Be careful out there.
Every week it seems you read aboutpedalAZ
Sep 2, 2003 2:10 PM
someone who gets shot in a "road rage" incident for as little as a dirty look. Last week it was a young lady who would not return the "come on" look from the guy in the passenger seat of the next car.
Well I broke two wrists on two separate occasions.Synchronicity
Sep 2, 2003 8:57 PM
I've even had people throw firecrackers at me. YES they were lighted. YES they kind of scared the crap out of me.

Plus I don't know about everyone else, but I've had two cars in 18 months run into me. The first was when I was doing about 40km/hr on this rough road, and fractured my right wrist + had pretty severe road rash on every single limb. Can you imagine a graze on your thigh; the size of your entire thigh??
All this because some git felt like side-swiping me. There were 2 other empty lanes he could have chosen; it was a sunny day - so there was NO WAY he didn't see me.
Then the bugger didn't even stop.

The other time was when a car swerved & parked suddenly right in front of me. My left hand hit the curb, and my wrist broke instantly. This was extremely painful - unlike the other fracture. I still can't pick up anything with that hand over about 10lbs (after 9 months later). I think a lot of you don't know how much it hurts to actually get run off the road!

Those who do understand.
Kids being kids.cydswipe
Sep 2, 2003 5:46 AM
I get a ton of crap from the local college kids. Especially the Augustana football players who congregate in the back of pick-up trucks. I ignore it. I admit when I was younger I acted stupid about 95% of the time with my friends too. I've always liked cycling. So I never used a vehicle to act tough. But, I don't want to start mouthing off to every motorist who honks, yells, throws objects, or wolf whistles. I guess I don't want these kids to start hating every cyclist they see, remembering the one who shot his mouth off. To each their own. Everyone has their opinion as well as reaction to a situation. The best outcome is when no one gets hurt. A bruised ego heals pretty fast.
yo, you need a rear rack with a crown air freshener (nm)JS Haiku Shop
Sep 2, 2003 6:19 AM
LOL. Air freshener? That's brilliant. Make 'em smell like gramma's house. nmKristin
Sep 2, 2003 6:24 AM
that was unecessarymobil1
Sep 2, 2003 11:28 AM
JS, I would expect better from you. You are hovering on a racist tendancy with this post.
crown air fresheners have no racial requisite nmJS Haiku Shop
Sep 2, 2003 11:33 AM
I don't think its racist, just stereotypical.Kristin
Sep 2, 2003 11:44 AM
I misunderstood his post, but it's given me a new idea. Carry a can of one of those nasty airosol air fresheners (or even a can of auqanet) when you ride. Just spray that inside someone SUV when they piss you off. Less agressive/dangerous than mace, but annoying as all hell.
I know how you feel shaky ...jmr986
Sep 2, 2003 2:59 PM
Although I've been fortunate only to have minor run ins with motorists I have chosen to ignore them usually. But, I remember many years ago riding my motorcycle, having the right of way, while some guy tried merging in to my lane while I was beeping my horn and right next to his drivers dorr. He purposely tried running me off the road. Well he caught the light. Put my bike on the stand, and grabbed his car door handle, which he locked, and tried opening it. I offered to discuss this with him outside of his carin an adjacent parking lot. Now you've got a nut with a leather jacket and a full coverage helmet with a tinted sheild. So he had no idea what he was dealing with. H is wife and kids were petrified. So I just walked away. Younger and dumber. Yes. Did this guy ever do it again? I hope not. The only part I felt guilty about was scaring the sheeot out of the kids. But I hope his wife reamed him out but good. It was really an emotional response at the time. It did feel good and obviously I still remember it although it was probably 20 years ago.

Would I do it again now. Probably not. If the knucklehead purposely tried knocking me off the road with his car. I get the plates and notify the police. Let them deal with him. If that doesn't work I have an Uncle Guido ....
While we are on the subject of aggressive drivers...Lone Gunman
Sep 2, 2003 3:41 PM
You would be amazed at the number of drivers who want to take me on(cut lane/fail to yield) while I am driving a 20ton 45ft Motorcoach. Even if it's close they lose, especially igits in full size SUV's who thought they were King of the Road.