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very difficult to mount michelins. need new rims?(13 posts)

very difficult to mount michelins. need new rims?klippur
Aug 30, 2003 8:45 PM
I just got a new set of tires, michelin axial carbons and holy begeezus were they ever hard to mount. I then later got a flat out on a ride (sharp metal shard, would of punctured any tire) and it was damn near impossible to remove the tire. It took a lot of struggling and cursing with two tire levers to finally get it off. My wheels are older Matrix rims on an older trek. I've heard these are hard rims to put tires on (slightly larger than most rims).

Anyways, I am thinking of upgrading my rims anyways, I long to have a pair of wheels that will accept my tires "without tire levers" or will allow me to "change a flat in 2-3 minutes" as I have heard riders post on this board. What rims are you folks running to achieve this?

cheers, klip
re: very difficult to mount michelins. need new rims?dieselforlife
Aug 30, 2003 9:48 PM
Also running matrix rims and michelin hilite prestige and found its all in the lever you use tried parks there way to wide with not enough hook on tip try something with a square sholder it also helps to make sure that the bead of the tire is centered on the band
re: very difficult to mount michelins. need new rims?Andy M-S
Aug 31, 2003 4:56 AM
I have Michelin Hilight "classic" (I think) tires on my townie, and the tires are almost impossible to mount/dismount on various rims. OTOH, my Axial Carbons on CXP-33 rims are relatively easy.
Michelins do tend to be more difficult...TFerguson
Aug 31, 2003 3:12 AM
The easiest rims to mount a tire on are the ones with the deapest drop down to the spoke holes. I've never done an iside the rim diameter study. Would be interesting. I run Michelin Axial Carbon, Axial Pro and Pro Race on the standard Open Pros with litle problem.

Michelins, rims, etc.Alexx
Aug 31, 2003 6:03 AM
Yes, Michelins are a b!tch to mount, and, no, another rim probably won't make a big difference. If you want to have easier tire changes, switch to tubulars, or else develop more upper body muscle.
Here's what you do about the tires...MVN
Aug 31, 2003 7:37 AM
Last year when I got my first pair of Axial Carbons they were monsters to mount. They will loosen up after you put some miles on them (at least they do here in La.'s heat). Next pair I got I spent about 5 minutes stretching each tire around its circumference. Best thing I ever did to alleviate the tightness problem, and I've done it on every pair since. I just got a new pair for my new Trek 5200 and spent 5 minutes stretching them. They went on fine, still a little tight but I didn't feel like I had been in a wrestling match after I got them on. Also, forget any other tire lever. I use a product called "Quik Stik" Bicycle tire changer. You should be able to get it from your lbs. It's yellow w/removable black handle cover, 6 inches long and it fits in my seat bag. You can cut them down to fit in a smaller bag, too. It's tough, I've never broken one even when mounting my first pair of Carbons. They work great, though. On my GT I'm using CXP21's, and I have Bontrager Race Lites on my Trek. I don't have any experience with other rims, so I can't help you there. Hope I helped you a little with the tire thing, though.

Gaod Luck
Forgot to mention...MVN
Aug 31, 2003 8:20 AM
I stretch each bead of each tire. This last pair I spent more time stretching each bead. It helped a lot b/c they were much easier to mount this time.
Quik Stik, YES!!MisJG
Aug 31, 2003 3:40 PM
Quik Stik ROCKS for tire mount/dismount. Once you use one, you're spoiled for other flimsy tire levers forever!
re: very difficult to mount michelins. need new rims?twobits
Aug 31, 2003 10:15 AM
get ambrosio excellence rims or mavic open pros. i have no problems getting axial carbons on either rim.
Make sure that rim strip is thin as possible N/Mcurlybike
Aug 31, 2003 3:26 PM
Matrix rims plus Michelin tires equals sore fingers....zero85ZEN
Aug 31, 2003 3:36 PM
or popped tubes or marked up rims from tire levers (or a combo of the aformentioned). After years of working as a shop rat I can tell you that Matrix rims and Michelin tires made for the hardest tire mounting I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with. I still have a bike with Matrix rims and I went with Conti GP3000's because they were the only tires I could get on the rims with my bare hands. I had a bunch of GP 3000's on hand in my tire stock and just tried them out and discovered this. I've read other posts on this site this summer that have claimed the opposite about GP3000's...saying that they were very HARD to mount on any brand rim. What I do know for sure is that the Matrix rims are a bit "oversized" and are very difficult to get any tire on, much less Michelins, which have in the past had a tendency to run a slightly smaller bead diameter.
I'm not alone!TNRyder
Aug 31, 2003 4:10 PM
I thought that I must be some sort of wuss or something until now. After yrs of MTNbiking I was accustomed to pulling tires off of rims with my bare hands and only had tire levers as a backup. After I bought a used bike w/Ambrosia rims I tried putting some Michelin Axials on the thing and had tire levers flying all over the room! The one time I flatted on a ride with this combination I just hitched a ride back to the house as this Rim/tire combo is pure hell!
Try Kevlar gloves!!yellowspox
Sep 1, 2003 1:13 AM
Be sure to spend the time stretching out the tires like most have already posted. I started using Kevlar gloves to save the hands when rolling the tire on the rim. I had a pair stashed in my boat for handling some of the toothy critters. They're the ones w/ the small dots on the palms for better grip. Now, if I could just get rid of the smell from previous use !!! LOL