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Any real differance between fly and butterfly saddles?(7 posts)

Any real differance between fly and butterfly saddles?the bull
Aug 29, 2003 2:58 PM
I think the butterfly has more padding.
Allright allright!
I am thinking about getting a plush saddle for the cloanago and was thinking I might put a butterfly on it.
What makes it a "womans" saddle?
Is it the Butterfly and some more padding?
Or is it desigined for there hips and stuff?
Butterfly:the bull
Aug 29, 2003 2:59 PM
Fly:the bull
Aug 29, 2003 3:00 PM
Which "stuff" other than hips do you mean???PdxMark
Aug 29, 2003 4:01 PM
Butterfly is wider at the rear...in theory for difference in the width between the sit bones.
re: Any real differance between fly and butterfly saddles?Mg1
Aug 29, 2003 5:03 PM
I have the fly, my wife's bike has the butterfly. I ride hers on occasion because 1)it has platform pedals and 2) it is hanging in a convenient spot in my garage, which makes it handy for chasing the kids down. As the pics show it is a tad wider in the rear, and while the padding is probably identical in volume it does feel softer, but I attribute that to the shape.

It's all up to your own tukus to decide; mine feels just fine on the fly.
re: Any real differance between fly and butterfly saddles?tube_ee
Aug 30, 2003 7:19 PM
The butterfly is wider in the back and shorter front-to-back. Weight differences are "in the noise."

Here's a good way to tell what width you need. Take a sheet of cardboard out to the curb, lay it down and sit on it. When you get up, there should be two indentations in the cardboard, made by your sit bones. Measure the distance between them, and make sure that whatever saddle you buy is at least 2 - 3 cm wider at it's widest point. Anything much narrower is going to be an ass hatchet.

Also, when you install it on the bike, make sure you set the fore / aft position such that your sit bones contact the widest part of the flare when you are in the position you spend the most time in. This would be on the hoods for most people.

Don't worry about any knee-to-pedal-spindle stuff. There is no valid biomechanical reson for K.O.P.S., it's just a good average starting position for most people. I find that the natural location of my hips relative to the bottom bracket is constant for a given bike, regardless of where I put my saddle. It's a function of the length of your legs, thigh / calf length ratio, and seat tube angle. Ride with an allen wrench, and take note of where your hips want to be. Then adjust your saddle to the position that provides the best support for your sit bones.

--Shannon "Sit bones are for sitting on" Menkveld
I'm another man that uses both.MrCelloBoy
Aug 31, 2003 10:00 PM
I have a Fly on my RB and Butterfly's on our tandem. I found that the wider seat (butterfly) is more comfortable for me on the tandem as one can't move as freely as on a single. We also trade off "captaining" on the tandem so it also makes the switch easier. Change the seat heights and move the ergostem and we're off and running!