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Its finally here - The 2003 Sports Grand Prix pics!!(64 posts)

Its finally here - The 2003 Sports Grand Prix pics!!Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 11:21 AM
Whew. I've been scanning for days. Unfortunately, photography isn't like riding a bike. Put the camera down for a year and you forget all sorts of things--such as the differnce between bikes moving at 28MPH and still life flowers. I do apologize for the quality, I cleaned them up as much as possible.

Here is the winner of the race. Actually, I'm not even sure it was a race. This guy practically lapped the field on lap 2 and never gave back an inch. Unbelievable.
Here is the #2 man...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 11:22 AM
Kristin...Fez
Aug 28, 2003 12:11 PM
Did you take all of these Downers Grove pictures with your own camera? If so, is there any way you can share the speedskating pictures? I know some of the guys there and would like to see some of the pics.

Could you post them in another thread? Or if its easier, can they can be zipped/compressed and emailed? Or are they already posted on some internet site? Thanks. I do have a T1 connection, so I can pretty much download anything.
Bummer, I only have 4 images of the skating.Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:16 PM
These 2 and 2 of the womens field that were not in focus. Sorry. Next year I'll take some more for you.
hey Kristin, these guys are on roller blades nmJS Haiku Shop
Aug 28, 2003 11:27 AM
Yeah, what kind of pedals work with those shoes? nmdzrider
Aug 28, 2003 11:31 AM
Ooops, sorry. You wanted to see the bike race, didn't you.Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 11:30 AM
The 2003 field...

I think everyone was still in lap 6...tho there was a Saturn mechanical early on.


There was nearly a tragedy in lap 10 when the traffic girls got to flirting with the Mavic guys and failed to monitor traffic. A family crossing turn 1 was nearly taken out by the pace car.





Oh yeah. SPOILER.Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 11:31 AM
In case you were waiting to see it on Fox news.
thanks, i was starting to wonderJS Haiku Shop
Aug 28, 2003 11:35 AM
what kind of person would that make me if i was interested in seeing pictures of a bunch of sweaty guys with shaved legs, ugly sunglasses, loud helmets, skinsuits, and funny shoes. wait a minute...
Pic 2nd from top = Outstanding. nmOldEdScott
Aug 28, 2003 11:38 AM
Making a break for it...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 11:38 AM
This wasn't the most exciting race. The field stayed together for the most part without any successful breaks and lots of attacks. The pace was fast and by lap 50 the peleton had shrunk dramatically.
re: Its finally here - The 2003 Sports Grand Prix pics!!Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:05 PM
3 teams don't have rider bios with photos, and I couldn't get onto 7 up's site at all. In the end I only can name 2 riders myself. So if you know a riders name, please post it.
Climbing Summit










Next up: 7upKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:21 PM
Now this man I know. How could I not? I see him every day! I must confess though, that if I saw him in my helmet mirror, I might kick it up a notch or ten. He looks scary when he's racing. I get the impression from his diary though, that he's nothing but nice.











Its a Jelly BellyKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:24 PM
I think it may even be the same Jelly Belly.


USPSKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:29 PM
Not sure which one this is. I must say that the USPS is one very photogenic team.


Of course I know who this guy is:
Did you see anything funny about him with 15 to go?Alex-in-Evanston
Aug 28, 2003 1:11 PM
Apparently he had an emergency and just had to go. Peed into a bottle on the fly. Pretty impressive, as I doubt they took a lap at less than 30mph.

Alex
Bummer, I missed it. Last year...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:21 PM
Last year a Navigator had to go in lap 3. (What kind of a bad day do you have to be having to need a wiz break in lap 3?) Anyway, there is no modest part of the course. He just wipped it out and pee'd onto the pavement in front of 3 little old ladies. From their reaction I assumed that was there first and only critirium viewing. They did have good seats though.
moral: don't take a bottle offered by a competitor . . . (nm)Drone 5200
Aug 28, 2003 2:14 PM
Some more Ofoto's (hehe...)Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:39 PM
This guy lead a lot of laps:


MiscellaneousKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:41 PM
NavigatorsKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:47 PM


Who is this? Chris Wherry?


If you know who these racers are, speak up.Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:49 PM
If you know who these racers are, speak up.bondgirlpa02
Sep 8, 2003 6:43 PM
Hi Kristin!

I think the Health Net guy is Alexandr Kozlov and the Postie is Kenny Labbe. I was shooting pics of Kenny all day & at one point they were riding close to each other. I think you may have captured that!

I have the list of all the racers & their numbers from that day (just for the pro race, unfortunately). If you'd like a copy, just let me know.

Emily.
That would be awesomeKristin
Sep 9, 2003 6:11 AM
Thanks Emily. I'd love a copy of the race roster. I'm trying to learn who some of the riders are. It makes it easier to follow the race. My email is Kristin6@hotmale.com (change the male to mail). Did you get some good shots? You should post a few.
That would be awesomebondgirlpa02
Sep 11, 2003 7:11 PM
Hey Kristin!

I tried to e-mail you the list, but your box was full. My scanner is doing strange things so I have a couple of jpegs to send you or I can fax.

My address is bondgirlpa02@hotmale.com (but use mail in place of the other).

Here's a pic of Robby from the race. Hope you enjoy!

-Em.
Not even sure what team this isKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:49 PM
Not even sure what team this isbondgirlpa02
Sep 8, 2003 6:51 PM
That's Tim Larkin of Ofoto-Lombardi Sports & I think that may be another photo of Kozlov of HealthNet.
I'm bummed that this one isn't sharpKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:51 PM
I'll post it anyway because I like his position on the bike. Every muscle!
A Prime Alliance RiderKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:52 PM
West VirginiaKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:55 PM
So many West Virginia jokes going thru my head right now. What next, a team from Kentucky? :-)
Attacking the Summit...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:56 PM
Or something like that...
Navigators in controlKristin
Aug 28, 2003 12:57 PM
Someone reported that this is the most challenging crit course?Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:00 PM
I am skeptical. Perhaps someone here could confirm this and explain why? I mean, this is Chicago, after all. The San Francisco course has that hill from hell. Surely that course is worse than this relatively flat course.
True, but the "Grand Prix" isn't a crit nmThe Human G-Nome
Aug 28, 2003 1:38 PM
Helmet PanoramaKristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:01 PM
Russell Hamby -Ofoto-white helmetRoger2
Aug 29, 2003 11:55 AM
Go Russell! ;0)
Sierra NevadaKristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:03 PM
Dave Fuentes? I think. nmRoger2
Aug 29, 2003 11:58 AM
Adham Sbeih #91 n/mbondgirlpa02
Sep 8, 2003 6:47 PM
Look at those muscles!!Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:04 PM
more like a pile of thick ropesThe Human G-Nome
Aug 28, 2003 1:40 PM
that guy is yoked.
More random images of the fieldKristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:05 PM
And the winner is... (Photo taken by Casey Gibson)Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:07 PM
I didn't get a shot of the finish, so I snagged this one from Velonews.
This was an interesting bike...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:08 PM
And here's another. Schwinn. Lowrider wannabe?Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:09 PM
Pain anyone?Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:11 PM
That's it! I'm done...Kristin
Aug 28, 2003 1:12 PM
Whew, that was hard work. Hope you enjoyed them.
Great shots! Thanks, Kristin! (nm)CHRoadie
Aug 28, 2003 1:16 PM
nm
Thanks...Great stuff...out of practice...HA (nm)Scot_Gore
Aug 28, 2003 1:24 PM
Excellent!! Please do TdF for us next year! nmKeeponTrekkin
Aug 29, 2003 4:30 AM
Sure. I just need a ticket to France and accomidations! :-) nmKristin
Aug 29, 2003 5:18 AM
Great Pictures - Thank you so much! nmSpiderman
Aug 28, 2003 1:24 PM
Thanks Kristin!The Human G-Nome
Aug 28, 2003 1:47 PM
that was a LOT of pics. hard work indeed. and the fact that you photoshoped them first.... . this must mean you really care. thanks again!
Lookout Graham Watson! Very nice. Thanks. nm.innergel
Aug 28, 2003 2:00 PM
Great pics!!CritLover
Aug 28, 2003 4:58 PM
Thanks for taking the time to post them. Photo editing can be fun, but oh so much work (especially if your a perfectionist like me).

What kind of camera are you using? The clarity is nice and the colors are very vivid. Considering the speed of a pro peleton, they came out awesome. What's shutter speed did you shoot them at?
Thanks and you're welcomeKristin
Aug 29, 2003 5:16 AM
I am a perfectionist too. I rescanned several of the images to get them just right. Another $70 and 5 days' of my down the tube. Ah...hobbies. :-)

I shot this with an Elan II and Tamron 100-300 Macro zoom. Next year I must get a better lens this one is way too slow for shooting races. I didn't track my shutter speed this year. They mostly fell between 160-1500 depending on my location. I also realized after the race that I was set to full metering instead of spot. This screwed up my exposure on a bunch of images. It was a pretty bright day, so I set it to apeture priority, but shot at lower appetures which was a mistake. I'm typically a nature photographer and am comfortable shooting at F2-6.7. I really should have kept it between 9-11. Oh well, next year. The colors are attributed to Fuji. I shot 4 rolls of Sensia 100 and 1 roll of the new Velvia 100. Wow. Its the first time I've tried the V100 and I'm sold!!
Just for fun...try thisZman
Sep 3, 2003 5:59 PM
Kristen,

Nice job, I am new to this site and really enjoy your enthusiasm. I think you did a really good job.

I am also photographer and maybe have a few pointers to share with you. Just food for thought, not being critical.

1. Try to be more aware of the depth of field required for a certain image. This is really tough in a fast paced sport like cycling but can work out. Experiment with panning once in a while, lots of bad pictures but when you get a good one it will be awesome. You also were right on regarding your aperture setting, go as "l o w" as you can, like f11, f16...ect. This in itself will work wonders. A monopod helps in these type of situations.

2. You want to buy a new lens, good girl. If you are serious about your photography and really want something great, get the 70-200 f2.8L IS USM. This is the BOMB (for Canon owners, which I am not!). Lots of money but 1 spectacular optic. The "IS" feature will help eliminate a certain amount of camera shake. Another nice optic is the 70-200 f4L and it can be had for around $600.00. This is serious equipment. Another "cute" little guy is the 28-135 IS lense. You need to get a little closer but this lens is a sleeper, very nice at around $400.00.

3. Try a higher speed film once in a while. I use a lot of Fuji Press 800 (I rate it at 640) and get wonderful results when scanning. If you keep the enlargement sizes down this is one great film.

I found your comment about spot metering interesting, I almost always use "Matrix" metering and have had poorer results with center or spot metering. It works for you though and thats all that matters.

4. For consistant image presentation I would use shutter priority in a fast paced sport like cycling. The percieved speeds would be more consistant. I do personally shoot in A priority for the most part though.

Great pictures, just trying to help out a fellow photographer for the next big race.

Z
Zman, thanks!Kristin
Sep 4, 2003 5:56 AM
Thanks so much for the post. As an ametuer, I'm always looking for photog advice. This is my second time shooting a race, and its fun yet frustrating. I throw away lots of film. I wish I had shot more--like 3 rolls more--in the F11+ range, but I'd also like to keep trying to get a good image at F6.7. I'm dreaming of that perfect shot where that one guy is in perfect focus in a massive pack that fades into the distance. I almost got it this time, but not quite.

Thanks for the glass recommendations. Next years budget will go largely to a lens and I'll look at the ones you suggested. I don't have much of a budget, but I've learned that cheap is worthless when it comes to good glass. Is there a cheat sheet on the web that will help me under stand when and how to rate my film? I've never pushed a roll before and I'm a little bit afraid to. But I know that most everyone does it.

All great advice! Thanks.
Kristin
KristinZman
Sep 4, 2003 1:35 PM
Actually mine was a "pull" but who cares right!

Here is my take on actual ISO values (or EI, exposure index).

If your photos are CONSISTANTLY dark, then change the ISO manually to a lower setting. Conversely, if they are CONSISTANTLY too bright, then change the ISO manually to a higher setting. This is one of the greatest pointers I can ever give you. DO NOT FIGHT IT, FIX IT. Once you become a seasoned veteran you will hone your skills and your exposures will be very consistant. All camera meters vary, no matter how much you spend, but you will get to know your camera and how it performs. Film is the same way. Just because is says ISO 100 does not mean it will perform that way for all persons.

I shoot Press 800 at 640, Provia 100 at 100, and Velvia 50 at 40.

You might want to find a used EOS 3 body also sometime down the line. Believe me, there is no end to the spending in this hobby.

You did great in only your second event, with time maybe Graham will have some competition!

If you ever have a question please feel free to ask. Do you know what "hyper focal distance" is?

Z
Why no. What is hyper focal distance?Kristin
Sep 4, 2003 1:46 PM
Also, I should have mentioned. My biggest blunder this year was to not change the settings on the Elan at home when I had the manual handy. The camera is still new to me. I bought it used from a pro friend to replace my Rebel which was my learning camera. I still am not familiar with all the gadgets on the Elan. It was setup to continuously focus and to spot meter randomely from the 3 sensors. This feature would be a God send if I had a good lens, but the Tamron is so slow the camera just wigs out and keeps the lens seeking. ARG. So I switched it to manual focus early on. The problem is that I couldn't figure out how to turn off the spot metering so it didn't necessarily meter where I was focusing, it just metered on whichever sensor locked first.
Hyper focal distanceZman
Sep 4, 2003 3:29 PM
This is the theoretical zone of acceptable focus. This is really a nice thing to know when you use manual focus. You can actually "preset" the focus to a determined range and then you do not need to worry about focus. When your subject reaches the "target" zone, you fire the shutter. It sounds complicated but is actually very, very simple. I use this very often in mountain bike races where I am follwing a group and I know exactly where I want the shot to be taken.

Z
Great series of pictures Kristin! Thank's for sharing these!russw19
Aug 28, 2003 6:10 PM
Kristin, THANKS! Great pictures! nmMike P
Aug 29, 2003 3:06 AM
Great shots. Grabbed a few for wallpaper. Thanks. (nm)JL
Aug 29, 2003 5:00 AM