|Reasonable cost for a complete bike build-up?||Zonic Man|
Aug 26, 2003 10:11 AM
|I'm a former bike mechanic, now working stiff with no time on my hands to get stuff done. That is to say that I'm entirely capable of building up my bike myself, but I want it done right, with the right tools, someone with a ton of knowledge, etc.
The shop manager said he'd set my bike up for me. It is coming to him as a new frame/uncut fork, nothing ever threaded or pressed in, and all the parts in their respective brand new packaging.
Now, this shop has a TON of experience setting up Campy bikes (I have none) a ton of experience doing high end in general, and I trust the guy who's building it up from scratch to a fault.
Do you think $100 labor, for a complete build, with installing an Ergobrain, and a fitting after the build to get everything setup is a good deal?
Maybe it's just that I never spend money getting my bikes worked on is all, but hell, even the way the dude wraps bar tape is magical.....
What's the scoop? Opinions?
|yes. plus '2 tune ups' nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Aug 26, 2003 10:19 AM
|re: Reasonable cost for a complete bike build-up?||gtx|
Aug 26, 2003 10:31 AM
|sounds fair if you're paying the guy directly. A shop would probably charge more. But as a former shop wrench I'd think you'd want to get familiar with your new bike/equipment and that you'd want to own the necessary tools... and I'm surprised you'd let anyone touch your bike... ;)|
|I'm paying the shop, not him.||Zonic Man|
Aug 26, 2003 11:03 AM
|He's the general manager of the shop.
I hear you on not touching my bike....totally. But I trust him with the road stuff, no doubt.
He's got a resume to be actually proud of in the road arena, multiple euro teams he wrenched for, was a former D3 team director, is a current team director, blah blah blah.
(I still won't let him touch my MTB though...LOL.)
|I'm paying the shop, not him.||gtx|
Aug 26, 2003 11:25 AM
|yeah, but as C40 mentioned the only pain in the butt is the Ergo cable routing. The rest is easy.|
|I think that's reasonable||pmf1|
Aug 26, 2003 10:34 AM
|I had 2 frames and parts kits a couple of years ago (one for me, one for my wife) and had the LBS build it up. They charged $225 for the both of them -- this did not include building wheels (we already had plenty of wheels).
I did it mainly for the sake of convenience ... that and I don't have tools to install a headset, and I was afraid to cut the forks myself (they were $700 each Colnago Star forks ... I'd sure feel bad cutting them too short by accident).
Another bonus is you get a good build and throw some business to the LBS without having to pay for over-priced parts.
|Which shop is your LBS, pmf?||Fez|
Aug 26, 2003 11:05 AM
|I'm from around the area and was wondering who is good for builds from scratch?|
|I go to Spokes||pmf1|
Aug 27, 2003 5:25 AM
|There's one on Maple Ave in Vienna, and another on Quaker Lane (I think) in the Shirlington area. The Vienna shop has gotten bigger since I had the Colnagos built up a couple of years ago. I'm not sure bigger is better. They do, however, have real mechanics working there rather than the kids you see at Performance. I think I know more about bike mechanics than those rad dudes at Performance.|
|re: Reasonable cost for a complete bike build-up?||Alpedhuez55|
Aug 26, 2003 10:39 AM
|It sounds reasonable to me as well. I know of a couple of shops that sharge $100 to $125 for a build like that.
Aug 26, 2003 10:40 AM
|I've had two "frame swaps" done in the past two years. In other words, shop removed all components from old frame and put them on new frame, adjusted gears, cables, etc. One shop charged $125 labor, the other one $100. One of the better shops in my area charges $150 labor for the same service, last time I checked.|
Aug 26, 2003 10:59 AM
|If you are a former bike mechanic, you should know how much time it takes to build up a bike properly. $100 is pretty cheap if it includes the ergobrain installation.
I find it hard to believe that a "former bike mechanic" would not do something as simple as assembling his own bike. You won't learn anything letting someone do it for you.
Building a Campy bike takes only one special tool, the $7 lockring/bottom bracket tool. A headset press is nice, but I've installed more headsets without one than I have since I finally broke down and bought the press.
One of the trickiest parts to building up a campy bike is positioning the ergo levers and routing the cables. I always route both shift and brake cables along the front of the bars and route the rear derailleur cable to the left cable stop and the front derailleur cable to the right cable stop. This routing totally prevents any contact of the cables with the head tube. Depending on the location of the cable stops, the cables may contact the underside of the downtube where the cross each other. I've had to fabricate a very small stainless steel sheetmetal "bumper" to prevent contact with the down tube on some frames. Other work OK with a small piece of bikesaver tape for protection.
I find that campy cables will create hand discomfort unless some additional foam padding is installed around the cables, just behind the brake hoods. A thin self-adhesive foam tape called "Camper Seal" works great for this purpose. You can get a large roll for about $5.
Speaking of bikesaver tape, that should be the first thing that's done during the installation. Cut a length of bikesaver tape to protect the right chainstay from damage. Keeps a bike looking new, even after thousands of miles.
|For all the $$$ you've saved||Roger2|
Aug 26, 2003 11:00 AM
|on purchases thru them throwing a $100 there way is justified, regardless if it is a good deal.|
|Um, this is from Myke at Wheelworks.||Zonic Man|
Aug 26, 2003 11:14 AM
|You think I'd have anyone else do it?
Come on now.....
|Great deal - do it.(nm)||Mariowannabe|
Aug 26, 2003 1:15 PM
Aug 26, 2003 3:54 PM
|i was quoted by a couple LBSes $150 for a complete build, not including wheels.
i figured i could buy the couple of tools i needed and build it myself and buy some other accessories for that much. i did have them install my headset and fork for about $30, including spacers.