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14.4 mph--135 miles & 16,000 ft climbing-- slow or ok?(12 posts)

14.4 mph--135 miles & 16,000 ft climbing-- slow or ok?MKD
Aug 25, 2003 11:13 PM
I have been riding for about 4 years now, especially in the last 22 months (in which I have rode about 2,500 mtn bike miles and 3,500+ road bike miles). Plus I spend winters backcountry skiing and climbing. I was happy to finish this 135 mile ride and I was pretty thrashed afterwards, but wondering about avg speed. I know there was a lot of climbing, but I read how others are complaining about being dropped at ie. 23 mph avg. During a century I avg about 17.5-18 mph with 6,000-8,000 ft of climbing. I consider myself in pretty decent shape until I read some of the discussions here. Maybe I need to train differently? I mostly solo ride, are these higher avgs because of group riding? Is my avg century normal compared to most? Mike
I don't care what anyone else thinks...config
Aug 26, 2003 1:30 AM
...but that's impressive! 135 miles on its own is darn good. I know I haven't done that on flats yet and I can only average roughly 18 mph. Way to go!!!
Good Job........Len J
Aug 26, 2003 2:57 AM
don't let the Avg speed junkies get you down.

Slightly under 15 MPH solo with that much climbing for 135 miles is more than respectible. The 23 MPH that you read about here is usually:

-In a paceline
-On the Flats
-as Part of a less than 40 mile group Hammerfest
-For a PART of the ride

Anyone who averages 23 MPH for a 40 mile ride is hammering.

Take pride in your ride, measure yourself against the only competition you have, yourself.

Len
Sounds like a Good ride!wspokes
Aug 26, 2003 4:02 AM
Sounds like a good ride!! Sounds like a good challenge as well! Excellent job!

Backcountry skiing!!! YEAH!
You done good!!bigrider
Aug 26, 2003 4:05 AM
With that much climbing and for that distance that is about average for a good long distance ride of that nature. I have a little story for you.

There once was a roadie who consistantly did a 24 mile average. One day his paceline friends got angry so he rode by himself and averaged 21 mph. He got tired of doing the same 30 mile ride and decided to do a 70 mile ride and he averaged 18mph. Well a flat 70 mile ride is pretty boring so he decided to do a very hilly 70 mile ride and his average was 16mph. Finally he decided to do a long hilly ride that was 130 miles with 10,000 feet of climbing and he averaged 15 mph and it was a tough ride.

Congratulations!!!
What does average speed mean?dzrider
Aug 26, 2003 4:59 AM
If you averaged 14.4 by riding 135 miles in an elapsed time of 9 hours 23 minutes you were doing great. If your average speed comes from a computer that shuts off when you stop riding and you spent 12 hours doing the ride with lots of time off the bike stretching and resting, it's below average.

If, however, you spent the time off the bike taking pictures, helping other riders, admiring views from the top of those climbs, or cooling your feet in a mountain stream, the ride sounds perfect. For me the point of ultra riding is having fun and feeling good while I'm pushing myself. It's seems a shame to finish an effort like that worried about the numbers on a little computer. If the computer broke, how would you evaluate the ride?
Exactly.hrv
Aug 26, 2003 7:26 AM
I did 100 miles last weekend which included a measly 8,000 ft. of climbing. Knocked my computer off the bars, in a ditch, 20 miles into the ride and felt lost at first, then rode with a freedom I haven't seen in awhile for the rest of the ride.

I see myself riding 'computerless' in the not too distant future. It would be now except for using the numbers in my race training.

Yeah, don't worry about avg. speed, unless the course you rode is a race you want to do and know your category averages 17 - 20 mph, then be afraid, be very afraid!

hrv
Beware of average speed reports . . .ms
Aug 26, 2003 6:12 AM
I have been on the same ride with people and, after the ride was over, had people report varying average speeds. For example, I set my computer before the bike moves at all and let it run until it is at a complete stop. One riding buddy starts his computer when we are moving at full speed and stops it just before the end of the ride. His average always is higher. Another friend with whom I ride occasionally always is reporting average speeds higher than mine over certain common routes when he rides solo. Then, we ride together (and I am pulling his a@@), we never achieve the speeds he claims on solo rides. Average speed reports are like stories about fish that got away and claimed heights of basketball players -- some people tell the truth, but some exaggerate.

I think that you had a good ride -- if you enjoyed it, I wouldn't worry about it. Your numbers sound good to me.
Very True!!wspokes
Aug 26, 2003 7:02 AM
I agree completely. I know people that don't factor in the warm up or cool down periods. I don't care about these factors. I feared riding with one group once because I heard about these high averages...then I decided to take a chance. Things are very different when they don't factor in the warm ups and cool downs and only factor in their "speed zones"...moral...don't be a speed drone.
re: 14.4 mph--135 miles & 16,000 ft climbing-- slow or ok?Cary1
Aug 26, 2003 7:39 AM
I'm not as strong as a lot of riders here, but I think that is a great report. The only way I would average 14.4 for 135 miles would be if there was less than 1,000 feet of climbing (I don't know if I could do 16,000 feet).

Don't forget that centuries, double centuries, etc., are not about beating others times, but having fun and beating yourself. If you averaged 10mph, you would still be doing better than 98% of the worlds population.

Cary
thxMKD
Aug 26, 2003 7:56 AM
I do tend to focus too much on my computer time. I do however try to ride to enjoy the ride and not beat myself up. That is why I do a lot of solo riding, my best friend likes to hammer all the time. Thx for the feedback, I guess I shouldn't worry about it so much. I just wanted to know where I stand and always looking for ways of self improvement. Thx again
re: 14.4 mph--135 miles & 16,000 ft climbing-- slow or ok?aliensporebomb
Aug 27, 2003 9:22 PM
MKD: What you did is rockin' totally. Excellent ride!

Wish I could do that. I'm getting there though.