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Bill: can you tell us more about your Pegoretti Marcelo?(2 posts)

Bill: can you tell us more about your Pegoretti Marcelo?ET
Aug 22, 2003 5:17 AM
Its standard geometry is right for me, so I might be interested one day. Now that you've had a chance to ride it for a while, what do you think about it?

You've said before it's very comfortable for long rides as steel should be, but is it still a decent climber and performer despite the comfort? How much are you giving up? Any clue how it compares to 853, Foco, or other 16.5 frames?

I hope paint schemes other than the standard one (Pegoretti brothers heads all over the tubes--what were they thinking?) will be available.

You said you got a custom. Out of curiosity, what is your height and bike inseam, and what seat tube/top tube/seat tube angle did they come up with?

It's a great bike, whose charms I appreciate more with time. Itbill
Aug 22, 2003 7:15 AM
flattens a lot of road chatter, the rear stays solidly on the ground, and it feels very confident and stiff both climbing and descending. Part of that is the fork (Mizuno Shark) and the bar/stem combo (Deda 215 standard, non-anatomic, Zepp stem), which I think are all great-performing components. The rest of the componentry is Record, which doesn't hurt either.
I have not ridden tons of bikes over a zillion years, so my measure of comparison is a bit limited. At this point, though, I can compare it to:
My Litespeed Natchez, which I've sold. The Pegoretti is probably more stiff laterally, with no discernible side to side flex, but that may be from the bar/stem as much as anything. A fair amount of the flex in the Natchez came from its quill stem. The Pegoretti still always tracked better, with the rear just never leaving the ground, compared to the LS, which would jump a little in the turns sometimes. Never with the Pegoretti. The LS also was less comfortable, although that may have been due in part to the Wound-Up fork, which is stiff, stiff, stiff. Great for crits, but it started to beat up these old bones.
My Douglas scandium alu Stealth. The jury is out on this bike, even though I've had it a year. I've raced it some, which is why I bought it, but it's actually the least stiff bike I own. It still feels confident in descents and turns and is pretty stiff laterally, which is probably from the Ouzo Pro fork and the ITM Millenium stem/3TTT Prima bars, as much as anything. I think that the Zepp/Deda combo on my Pegoretti is stiffer, but these are still good components. You also can tell from the rear alignment and just the way that the wheels fit into the dropouts, etc., that the Pegoretti is better made, leaving aside the aesthetics.
My Fondriest P4 CF. This is another great bike. Stiff as all get out, tracks like a mother, great race bike (if you have the guts -- I haven't raced it in a crit yet). Great climber and descender. Turns really well, confident in the corners. It will, however, beat you up a bit. It belies the "CF is not lively" myth. It's all in the design (and tires and air pressure, frankly).
The Pegoretti remains my favorite. You will never ride it and say, "yeah, but." It does everything.
As far as the custom angle, who knows? I don't have the tools to really measure everything out, and Dario doesn't explain himself. I have an 81 cm inseam (31.5"), I'm 5'8" tall, and I weigh about 160. The seat tube, c-c, is just under 52 cm, and the tt is like 53. The sta is steeper than the LS; I would guess about 74 degrees. I actually forget how many spacers I use on the stem, but, with the extended head tube, not that many. There is a fair amount of seatpost showing, about the max that you would expect to see (I've never figured out a good way to measure). I don't know about the ht angle, but the toe overlap is better than on the Douglas. By a lot.
The paint job, btw, sucked. It finally, two years later, has fully cured, and I no longer ding it by looking at it.