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Rather disturbing conversation at a recent hammer ride...(10 posts)

Rather disturbing conversation at a recent hammer ride...joekm
Aug 21, 2003 7:23 AM
Last Tuesday, I was a one of our bike clubs local after work rides. It's advertised as a "B to B+" ride but there's a "show-and-go" A ride that generally takes off on their own route. I'm currently in that limbo where I'm not quite fast enough for the A riders but too fast for the B+ group so I've been doing the A ride lately with the understanding that I'll ultimately be dropped (I managed a little over 21 miles that day before getting spit out the back).

Anyway, the riders included some members of the local racing team and, after the ride, they were having this conversation about reaching over and flipping the quick release on a competetors brakes during a race. At the time I jokingly said, "wow, I didn't know cycling was a combat sport". It got a couple of chuckles as well as affirmation that "yes, it is a combat sport".

As I though about it, however, I began to become apalled. At best, this would seem to be really poor sportsmanship and it's probably more accurate to call it reckless endangerment. I can think of no forms of racing where it is even remotely acceptable to tamper with someone else's equipment - especially his brakes.

My first instinct was to post this to the racing groups mailing list but, after giving it some thought, it's probably not appropriate to make a post that could be taken as an indictment of the entire team on the basis of one conversation.

Maybe they were just yanking my chain, but am I over-reacting to be totally disgusted by this?
Well, I think you becomeDwayne Barry
Aug 21, 2003 7:41 AM
somewhat cavalier about crashing, your competitors bike-handling skills etc. once you've been racing awhile. Flipping up someone's quick-release on their brakes shouldn't cause anything more than an instantaneous "oh, sh*t" as they go to scrub off speed with the brake. They'll just have to squeeze more now than last time (quite unexpectedly), but you should still have more brake then you'll ever need in a racing situation. I assume this was a joke they were playing on someone they knew, not an attempt to gain an advantage or cause a crash.
I suspect you are over reacting...biknben
Aug 21, 2003 7:43 AM
Although I'm sure it has happened, it is certainly not acceptable. Pranks among teammates aren't uncommon. I suspect it was just a funny prank done amongst teammates or friendly rivals.

It is much more common for racers to simply forget to close the quick release on their brake. It usually not the end of the world. Once they realize it, they reach down and close it.
I suspect you are over reacting...filtersweep
Aug 21, 2003 9:58 AM
I've forgot to close mine many times... I have a riding buddy who has to have his open because he uses THAT to adjust his brakes, rather than a barrel adjuster. It works fine until he flats!
I would not sweat it.Fender
Aug 21, 2003 7:45 AM
It was probably just a joke in poor taste. I've joked with my teammates about similiar things but we never do them, or would even consider it. It's just bad karma.

If they actually did do it, then I would contact the local USCF rep about it and having them penalized, as well as the team president.
doubt it would ever really happen..maurizio
Aug 21, 2003 9:01 AM
I doubt that would ever really happen to anyone outside of joking teammates. I used to have a team mate that just loved to un do a quick release lever so when you jumped on the bike the rear wheel would move. ha ha. not much harm done there.
But if you're really worried about the brakes, I go for Record calipers as they don't have the release lever on the brakes. It's on the brake levers and it's a small pin!
All the more reason to use Campy!
re: Rather disturbing conversation at a recent hammer ride...rogue_CT1
Aug 21, 2003 9:58 AM
I was in a Cat 5 race years ago (1988) when a guy next to me noticed that this other fella was using a quick release for his seat post clamp. This guy pulls up next to him in the pack and says "see you later" while he opened the quick release which in turn caused the seat to drop. The guy yelled out "hey" as the pack left him behind. My guess is that that guy never raced again with a quick release seat post clamp.

I was really apalled at the cruelty of ruining a guys race because he used the wrong equipement. To this day I still feel bad for that poor guy!
re: Rather disturbing conversation at a recent hammer ride...chuong doan
Aug 21, 2003 10:52 AM
If someone tried pulling any of those stunts on me, they'd get more than a stick in the spokes. I'd say a broken nose would be in order.
I'd have to agree...joekm
Aug 21, 2003 11:07 AM
I would try my luck with the USCF officials first but, failing that, I think I'd feel obligated to beat the hell out of him not only for endangering me, but every rider around me.
Oh hell no!spankdoggie
Aug 21, 2003 10:36 PM
I think they were joking, but if a bastard like that did that to me, I would beat his ass. Freaking bastards.