|Do you get obsessed about your weight / body?||UcannotBsirius|
Aug 20, 2003 12:18 PM
|I've been riding for about 12 years, MTB & road, but have got really serious about my road riding over the last year / 18 months. I've worked hard on my fitness and have improved my diet, to the extent I've lost about 14lbs and am down to 145lbs at 5'11". My climbing has improved a hell of a lot and at 37 (38 next week) I am the fittest I have ever been.
The trouble is I keep worrying constantly about my weight and what I'm eating. Today I ate some chocolate mid-morning, had a cake lunchtime after swimming, and had a big meal when I got in from work. I was straight on the scales afterwards!! (No gain, phew!).
I always despaired of women who are constantly talking about calories, how much they weigh etc etc, but I'm becoming as bad as one of them! (Plus my wife, who basically eats what she wants keeps on at me that I'm too skinny now).
It's not even as if I race (though I ride with a couple of racers sometimes and can usually drop them on the climbs).
Am I turning into a freak?
|No, not me, never.||PseuZQ|
Aug 20, 2003 12:27 PM
|And just in case you get concerned about this, make sure you look at lots and lots of media images, because they'll portray exactly what the ideal human body should look like, so as long as you look like that, you should be golden.
So stop worrying so much!
|If you are running to the scale after meals...YES!!!||biknben|
Aug 20, 2003 12:34 PM
|I pretty obsessive about my weight. I also lost over 50 lbs a few years ago so I got used to it. I hover in the mid to upper 150's at 6' tall. 157 seems to be my happy weight. I get on the scale each morning without clothes after using the bathroom. I do it the same way each time. This keeps the variables to a minimum. IMO: If you are weighing yourself at different times of the day, with clothes, after meal, etc. you can never be sure if the scale is telling the truth. Be consistant on the scale. Don't go nuts about every pound gained or lost. I set, what I call my "high level alarm" at 160 lbs. When I hit 160 I pay a little more attention to what I'm eating. Within a couple days everything is back to normal again.
If you are eating right and exercising regularly you should be confident that your weight is where it's supposed to be. Use the scale to track trends but don't drive yourself crazy.
|At 5'11" and 145 # you're a skinny stick.||JL|
Aug 20, 2003 12:38 PM
|Unless you're racing, you can survive a day with some "extra" calories. Even if you were racing, you could still survive some extra calories now and then.
I wouldn't say you're a "freak" yet, but live a little. Tonight, share a pint of Ben & Jerry's with the wife and stop obsessing about your weight.
|Don't share the pint! Eat the whole freakin' thing!||KG 361|
Aug 20, 2003 4:36 PM
|I'm 5'11" too, but nowhere near 145. (add about 40lbs.) I ain't fat, either. Take it easy, eat a little =)|
|Whats your fat %...||spluti|
Aug 20, 2003 12:40 PM
|I fluctuate alot with my weight. The hard lesson is how quickly and intensly you will bonk on a long event. You aren't carrying any extra fuel. I'm not sure how to explain this...If I bonk at 25% body fat, I can survive to a distant finish line at a reduced pace. If I bonk at 10% body fat, I'm finished on the spot. My point is that you have to eat smarter and more disciplined on your long ride if you have lost significant weight.|
|Whats your fat %...||UcannotBsirius|
Aug 20, 2003 2:03 PM
To be honest I have no idea what my BF% is.
However I bonked at the weekend, first time in at least 5 years.
Rode with a Cat 3 racer (I'm in the UK and don't race) and made a point of dropping him on every climb - of which there were many. Blew up bigtime after 45 miles - which just doesn't usually happen to me as I have the fuelling thing fairly sussed-out.
Couldn't work out why, however your post possibly explains it, with less body fat there is less reserve I guess?
|Keep it up...||t0adman|
Aug 20, 2003 12:43 PM
|and you'll look like Tyler Hamilton. Keep in mind you're not a pro cyclist and probably don't want/need to look like one. If you want a good measuring stick use the mirror and/or a body fat percentage meter or BMI. The scale is inconsistent and doesn't reflect what it's weighing (fat vs muscle). I'm 6'3" and 205 pounds. I could be lighter but I'm slowly losing weight as I ride more and more. I can't climb hills too well yet, but I still have fun and I can tell I'm improving. Measure your success by how much you enjoy cycling and life. Don't let your (obsession with) weight get in the way. Enjoy!|
|Measure your success by how much you enjoy cycling/life....||mainframe|
Aug 20, 2003 12:50 PM
|Sage advice, t0adman.|
|ouch, looks like i've got 45 pounds on Ben||JS Haiku Shop|
Aug 20, 2003 12:59 PM
|I also lost 50 pounds several years ago, mostly in the gym, over the winter. after that, i was pretty anal about weight and eating, but after a couple years the beer fairies sung to me in the night, and i'm back up to 200 pounds from 190.
recently i decided to go "hog wild" and eat whatever i cared to, whilst training for and riding brevets (training for & riding the brevets was november 2002 to may 2003). of course this included mass consumption of beer. it was only right.
naturally i paid for it "in the end". so, i put my "end" to the grindstone and got back to running a little bit, riding at a higher intensity, and working a little bit in the gym. from up to 210 back to 200 pounds, where i've hit a plateau. i keep cinching my belt tighter, but my weight stays the same. suppose i'm changing my body composition a little?
don't gauge your fitness and happiness by weight alone. judge your "weight" by how your "skinny clothes" fit, and how you feel in athletic endeavors. additionally, "spluti" has a point. i'm convinced BF% has an impact on how much is in the tank for extended efforts. at least that's what i'm telling myself as i chase mickey's big mouths with more mickey's big mouths.
eat, ride, be happy. other responses are right--due to many factors, including hydration, you can't get an accurate picture of your body composition on a scale at numerous times throughout the day.
|ps||JS Haiku Shop|
Aug 20, 2003 1:02 PM
|ps i'm pulling the train when those 8%BF 130# climbers are crying for their mommies at mile 180. thank you pabst blue ribbon!|
|Invite them out for a ride in 20 mph crosswinds||Spoiler|
Aug 20, 2003 1:31 PM
|offer to "share" pulls.|
|45! Hell, I've got 75 on him!||kjr39|
Aug 20, 2003 1:41 PM
|Wait a tick. That's not a good thing... I'm only an inch taller than he is...
Damn, I need to lose weight...
|Soooo. Sign me up for..||spluti|
Aug 20, 2003 1:45 PM
|Team Gravity! I thought I was the only blistering descender in this forum.|
|not at 128.5 ...||C-40|
Aug 20, 2003 1:34 PM
|After my 40 mile ride this morning, I was a bit shocked to tip the scales at only 128.5, after downing a large recovery drink. Lately, I've been at 130.5-132.
I'm 5'-6.5" and have a lot more upper body mass than a pro cyclist (but apparently less leg mass).
I drink one beer a day (occasionally a second) and never miss my ice cream for dessert. The rest of the time, it's highly nutritious food for me.
|Opposite obsession. Trying to bulk up.||Spoiler|
Aug 20, 2003 1:40 PM
|I quit riding in February and started bodybuilding. On Feb 10th I weight 148 lbs. I spend TONS of money on food, chicken drank high calorie protein powders before bed, and took some supplements that would make Hulk Hogan blush. I weighed myself every day. My last weight workout was on May 9th. I weighed a lean 165. The gf preferred the muscle me over the cyclists me.
Things didn't work out, the GF went bye-bye and I started cycling again and quit lifting. I stretchout the shoulders and arms of all my jerseys.
I could only ride on Saturdays and Sundays, and never rode more than 45 miles. By mid-July I was back down to 143lbs. All that hard earned muscle and hundreds of dollars, literally went down the toilet.
|yeah sometimes...my weakness is beer though (nm)||ColnagoFE|
Aug 20, 2003 1:46 PM
|Anybody know a good....||spluti|
Aug 20, 2003 1:49 PM
|beer drinking club that likes to bicycle?|
|Anybody know a good....||spankdoggie|
Aug 20, 2003 1:52 PM
|I think if you guys would quit the beer, you would drop weight quickly.|
|Count me in...if it's got alcohol I'll have some...||t0adman|
Aug 20, 2003 2:40 PM
|After the 126 mile day one of a recent two day two century ride, I absolutely had to have a beer. I sneaked away from the gym we all crashed in and bought a big Heinekin (sp?). Sometimes you just have to have a beer, period. I think I managed to burn it off the next day doing 86 miles.
I'm also a member of the blistering descent club!
|Anybody know a good....||gf99|
Aug 20, 2003 4:02 PM
"Got Wheel? Got Beer?"
My kind of club.
|re: Do you get obsessed about your weight / body?||UcannotBsirius|
Aug 20, 2003 1:55 PM
|Thanks for the replies.
My post was slightly tongue-in cheek, however the facts as I laid them out are true.
I just find it quite strange that after spending my 20's drinking huge amounts of alcohol amd smoking a fair bit (nicotine and the rest...) in my late 30's I turn into this slightly obsessed lean athlete type.
The "enjoy life and your riding" replies are spot-on, I have got serious about my riding, and hence fitness and weight, but I have kept a grip on reality by keeeping weekends as "my" time (food/drink-wise) so my curry & wine consumption is still fairly high.
I suspect my "enjoy food and booze -v- being a good/fit rider" quandry is shared by many; interesting to hear other people's takes on it.
|5'11" & 145# - stop worrying!!!...||cmgauch|
Aug 20, 2003 2:04 PM
|...the # on the scale doesn't mean a thing. You should not be worrying provided your bodyfat is in a reasonable range.
You've been hammering so you gotta fuel that furnace sometimes. Keep hammering and eat what your body tells you to.
And get serious about doing squats in the gym.
37 this year, 5'10", 185# w/12% bodyfat.
|You need to be MORE obsessed!||Jeff Rage|
Aug 20, 2003 2:26 PM
|You should eat your cake while standing on the scale!
Ok seriously, you should only weigh yourself maybe once a week. You'd be better off looking at your bodyfat percentage, as others have suggested. Do a seach at Yahoo Shopping for a Fat Track. It'll cost you about $25.
|You're flirting with bulemia/anorexia||Kerry Irons|
Aug 20, 2003 5:27 PM
|Most people think of bulemia as throwing up after eating, but you can exercise to the same extreme. While none of us can look inside your head, you are showing some of the signs that are the first stages of anorexia or bulemia. Not saying you're headed that way, but the statement "I was straight on the scales afterwards!! (No gain, phew!)." is very characteristic. I'd give this some hard thought, as once you go down that path, it can be years to recover. It is an obsessive behavior, and 145 lb for most 5'11" 38 year old males is VERY thin.|
Aug 20, 2003 7:10 PM
|when I got married 12 years ago I was 170 pounds at 5' 11".
I then took a nightmare job, travelled all the time, basically never saw my bike again.
I quit the job three years ago and started riding again 2 years ago ( of course I had to buy a couple of new bikes!!!).
I am now back down to 175 pounds and I figure at 43 yrs that's not bad with a sedentary job. I do weigh myself a lot but I figure that will ease off once I hit 170 again, which is my target. My theory is that maintaining is easier than losing.
I think we all get obsessed from time to time but if the targets are realistic, it will pass.
Don't worry, have a beer, then hit the trainer!!!
|trust me on this....||Steve_0|
Aug 21, 2003 3:53 AM
|if your wife thinks your too thin, you are.
About 7 years ago, I was way overboard on my tri training. Went from my optimal 150 down to 135 (5'9"). When my wife/mom/friends said I was too thin, I thought 'I FEEL in better shape than ever, who the hell are they to say I'm too thin?"
Anyhoo, family commitments have taken away over 50 percent of my training time; so the weight came back on. Looking back at pictures of me then, I was seriously underweight. Everyone was right. I now realize 'looking good' is pointless if you're the only one who thinks you do.
BTW - My performances were also suffering, As i'm quicker now than I was 7 years ago; without training 30 hours/week.
|Yes you are a freak.||lemmy999|
Aug 21, 2003 5:19 AM
|I lift weights three days/week and I am 5' 10.5" 168lb and I wish I weighed more.|
|Eating is fun - live to eat||jrescpa|
Aug 21, 2003 8:24 AM
|Don't worry so much about the weight. All the fat boys in my club drop me like brick on flat rides and I'm 5'9 and 149. Of course, I make them pay on the climbs.|
|you're no freak, everyone here is a fat bastard||collinsc|
Aug 21, 2003 9:21 AM
|I'm 5'10", 140lbs, and proud of it. I have never been faster as a climber, and I in no way feel I am lacking as far as my biking performance goes (except maybe downhill accelerations). I look lean and well defined, and I like it that way.
The people that say I am too skinny are either fat and out of shape or gym rat weight lifters, I have no desire to be like either of them. Dont listen to the detractors, theyre just fat idiots. Be proud of your form and fitness and the hard work it took to get it.
The only thing I have to say would be be careful with that scale. I, too, have a tendency to watch the needle too closely and I will feel guilty if the weight I read moves too much. Calling it bulemia would be hugely overreacting, just dont be afraid to eat pizza and drink a few beers every now and then.
|fat /= muscle||lemmy999|
Aug 21, 2003 10:12 AM
|you know you need muscle to pedal the bike don't you? Also, you equate weight with being fat. I know guys yoru height that weigh over 200lbs and probably have less fat on their bodies than you do. However, if you want to be anorexic..go ahead..I have no sympathy for people that die becauase of eating disorders (fat or skinny).|
|guys my height weighing 200lbs dont have muscles to push pedals||collinsc|
Aug 21, 2003 10:54 AM
|They have big arms and necks that have nothing to do with crank rotation. I dont equate weight with fat. I equate it with slow.
Before you call me (or anyone else) anorexic, and then be callous enough to threaten death, realize that you have no idea what I look like. Bone structure has as much to do with weight as anything else. Narrow hips, shoulders and wrists. I am not starving, not sick. I am not wasting away, I'm just thin.
Don't hate me (mr. no sympathy) because of it.
|guys my height weighing 200lbs dont have muscles to push pedals||lemmy999|
Aug 21, 2003 12:10 PM
|You are stereotyping. Not all of the muscleheads just work upper body. Many of them obsess over squats and are VERY strong in their legs. Of course they usually have no endurance. I was just disputing you calling everyone that is heavier than you fat. I just don't understand the people that want to be ultra thin weaklings so that they are fast on a bike or the guys that want to be 220lb muscle heads and couldn't walk 50ft without getting out of breath. However if that is what they want out of life, that is fine with me. The guy just posted a question on hear asking for people's opinions. We didn't try to force anything on him.
I don't hate you for being skinny any more than I hate the woman on the commercial because she thinks she is beautiful. I just think for someone to be running to the scales every time they eat something is kind of stupid. I doubt even the pro racers are that obsessive. Anyway, weighing immediately after you eat something is pointless anyway. 1 ounce of fat has more calories than 1 ounce of protein or carbs, and weighing immediately after you eat something is just going to reflect the weight of the food you ate, not the weight you will gain from the food.
My wife is a registered dietician and has had to deal with some people that die from eating disorders and most of the anorexic people when told (not by my wife) they are too thin respond with "you are just jealous because you are fat and not thin like me".
Aug 21, 2003 12:34 PM
|I agree with you about the constant weighing thing, which is why in my original post i urged the guy to relax about it and eat pizza. It can become more than an interest quickly.
Pro racers are that obsessive, how many times have you heard about Armstrong weighing the food he eats?
I think I should clarify though, that the only people who have ever said I am TOO (key word) skinny have been overweight (and thats not just my "eating disorder" talking) and in no place to judge.
Aug 21, 2003 5:00 PM
|I can sympathize with you there. I am 165-170 and I have had several people tell me that I am too thin. It really gets old. But I live in TN, and I saw something yesterday that people in TN are in the worst shape of any other state (except for Nebraska and Kentucky). Then I am around all of the muscleheads in the gym and I feel like a runt next to them, but they are kind of pathetic because they can't do anything but stand around and look at themselves in the mirror.
You are right about build having much to do with your weight though.
|you're no freak, *Americans* here are fat bastards||Geardaddy|
Aug 21, 2003 12:27 PM
|15 years ago I was 145 lbs. (at 5'9") and in the best shape of my life. I've never ridden so fast before. Now I'm more like 155 lbs. and I doing OK, but I lament the loss of my youth (sniff sniff).
Anyone here telling you that you are skinny is probably from the U.S. IMO, Americans are a bit fixated on "bulking up" and hooked on "super-sizing" their meals.
|NOw if you relly want to obsess....||eyebob|
Aug 21, 2003 11:55 AM
|Get one of those fat%/weight scales like I have. Then you can weigh yourself every day and get the fat% read-out too. And for kicks, you can plot the info on a spread sheet to watch trends.
Obsessed? Yes. Healthy? Yes. Annoying to others? Yes.
|You're weight is fine.||MikeBiker|
Aug 21, 2003 12:49 PM
|There is usually no concern with low weight until the BMI gets below 18. That would be approximately 130 lbs at your height. Your current BMI is greater than 20, so no problems. You are at a healthy weight and if you like the climbing ability that you have now, then stay at that weight.
I am your height, 19 years older and 33 lbs heavier. I am trying to lose 10 more pounds to be able to climb better.