|Most reckless thing I have seen in 20 years of biking||andydave|
Aug 18, 2003 7:21 PM
|In 20 years of cycling, I experienced something this weekend that jumps to the number one spot on the "Most Reckless Acts" list.
I was riding on an organized ride this weekend in middle Tennessee. Early in the ride, while riders were still bunched up, a vehicle passed a large group of riders. We were riding on a small two lane road, two riders abreast, in a group of about 25. Well, this motorist (or idiot, you choose) passes the group on a blind curve doing about 30 mph. The curve was completely blind, and the guy just passes us like he is on a Sunday drive. I can't even imagine what would have happened if another car had been coming. It was so outrageous, it was almost comical. How could someone do this? Anyone else experience similar outrageous acts by motorists?
|I see that all the...||Dwayne Barry|
Aug 19, 2003 3:41 AM
|time. Well, usually it's just me or a handful of others riding but I'm constantly being passed by drivers at blind curves or crests of hills, often on high speed country roads. I'm sure I'll see a head-on one of these days if I stay in this area. I think some people just don't think about how little time they will have if someone comes flying over the hill or around the curve at high speed.|
|ditto. west TN, btw. nm||JS Haiku Shop|
Aug 19, 2003 4:58 AM
|Happens to me in PA all the time too... (nm)||JL|
Aug 19, 2003 5:11 AM
|I can't even imagine what would have happened if...||Dwayne Barry|
Aug 19, 2003 5:17 AM
|Well, the instinct of the driver is to dive back into his lane. Depending on where you are you either get knocked off the road or run-over, or hopefully missed entirely. I know of one instance of this happening where the front rider(s) of the group were knocked sideways and/or dove into the grass with no serious consequence.|
|It was 20 years before you saw that???||biknben|
Aug 19, 2003 5:19 AM
|That's a weekly occurance for me.
A month ago or so I was in a similar situation. I noticed a vehicle coming up behind me as I approached a blind bend towards the left. The outside of the turn had all kinds of debris on the shoulder so I stayed to the left as I went around the turn. The driver didn't slow down went over to the other side of the road and blew his horn at me as he went by.
Somehow I was the bad guy in that situation. Whatever!!!
|How about this that happened last night..||newridr|
Aug 19, 2003 5:56 AM
|Was on a group ride in western NJ on a long, fairly straight, but rolling two lane road just last night. The group is headed westbound. Eastbound, two cars are approaching. The car behind decides to pass the slower car in front as he's going by us. So we ended up riding within 2 feet of a guy coming straight down our lane at passing speed. He was probably doing 65-70 mph. We were in a rolling pace line doing 25 mph. A little disconcerting to have a closing speed of around 90 mph, though. All in all, completely stupid move.|
|wow thats rather insane.........||african|
Aug 19, 2003 6:02 AM
|as you all know, a driver hit one of our group rides and the results were not pretty at all.|
|happens to me..||wspokes|
Aug 19, 2003 6:38 AM
|all the time here in PA. I am usually by myself and someone decides to pass. It sure puts things in perspective fast. I used to ride with another guy but stopped. His correction methods for motorists usually only invoked further road rage and I didn't want to be associated with his reactions. When this passing occured with him. He would slow up and spray his water bottle in the window of the passing car...only thing is the fact the person may veer into the car or us or wreck as a result of the shock. he thought it was amusing. I have witnessed this gentleman take peoples car keys out of the ignition during road rage arguments and toss them into the woods. he is a nut. No riding with him anymore.|
|I saw that and it was crazy!||lsg|
Aug 19, 2003 7:28 AM
|I was in that group and even if we had been riding single file that curve was to sharp and blind to be passing on. There was absolutely no way he could know if any traffic was coming.|
|re: Most reckless thing I have seen in 20 years of biking||jamesau|
Aug 19, 2003 7:59 AM
|This happens to me on a newly suburbanized stretch of road in PA, especially at a particular blind hillcrest.
I decided to take action after I saw an 18-wheeler come barreling over said hillcrest at about 40mph shortly after I was passed; this situation could have doomed everyone. Now as I approach the crest, I take up the whole lane and hold my left hand down and back to indicate "slow down". People oblige the gesture and have thanked me for it. I wear a Take-a-Look mirror which helps anticipate what the driver will do.
|re: Most reckless thing I have seen in 20 years of biking||MShaw|
Aug 19, 2003 11:29 AM
|That's one of my strategies: take over so much of the lane that they're either going to hit you (and I own their arse) or they slow down till after the blind corner. I make sure that I wave thank you as they go by.
Had something similar happen to me on the SDBC ride through Rancho Santa Fe. Semi-rural roads, even though you're not a few miles from a major freeway. Seems that I was toodling along waiting for the group to catch back up (no I am not claiming to be that fast, just that there's a re-grouping point that some of the people take, and some don't) when this arsehole in his car comes up behind me and starts honking and gesticulating right before a blind corner. As we get to where I can see around the next few corners, I ended up in the other lane saying something to the effect of "what the heck are you trying to do, passing me around a blind corner?" As the dude roars up the road, he turns right not 100m ahead of where we had our discussion!
Another time, same ride, same "town" there was this SUV with ?fire? department lights on top that came busting a gut around a pack of 100+ riders. We were taking up the whole lane 'cause it was the start of a 35-40mph downhill into the back side of Encinitas. Well, 35-40 wasn't good enough for this guy, so he passes us around a blind corner, RIGHT BEFORE another car comes the other way! Luckily for us, noone was injured by this idiot. Wish I'd gotten his plate...
So, the moral of these stories is: the idiots are everywhere, ya gotta watch out for #1 when you're in the twisties.
|The thing that scares me about these people...||gf99|
Aug 19, 2003 8:28 AM
|... is that if they have so little regard for their OWN lives, just where the hell do we fit into the scheme of things?|
|usually after NOT passing when they could have||Ray Sachs|
Aug 19, 2003 9:43 AM
|What commonly happens to me (Southeast PA) is a motorist will follow behind me for a little while and miss all sorts of good opportunities to pass and then gets frustrated and finally pulls the trigger on a blind curve. Happens with amazing frequency. More amazingly, I can only remember twice when there was someone coming the other way. The most recent time was in town and everyone was going slow enough to avoid any real problem. The other time, there was much squealing of brakes and swerving and I was off the shoulder in anticipation of getting hit. Somehow I didn't and got back on the road. A few seconds later the guy has an opening and comes around me, flipping me the bird and yelling at me the whole time. Still trying to figure out what I did wrong.
|re: Most reckless thing I have seen in 20 years of biking||bimini|
Aug 19, 2003 10:51 AM
|On some roads I see this about every trip during busy times of the day (I try to avoid those roads during those times).
The worst I have seen is a kid who passed a group of us and sure enough there was a car coming head on at him. The oncoming car went onto the sholder and almost in the ditch.
We get on the brakes and off the road in case the cars come our way.
Fortunately, no one was hurt.
|Karma will catch up.||Turtleherder|
Aug 19, 2003 12:14 PM
|Saw a similiar thing a few years ago. Dip stick in beat up old Ford Tempo blows by us at about 90 mph on a narrow, curvey two lane road. The air blast almost put me in the ditch. About five miles up the road he must have been moving at the same speed when he caught up to a semi that was moving slowly up hill on a blind curve. When we arrived the Ford had a smashed front end and was in the opposite ditch after cramming into the rear end of the trailer. Of course the cockroach in the Ford was fine, only a bump on the head and we all knew that he didn't use it so no damage was done.|
|Happens all the time in CT||StewartK|
Aug 19, 2003 5:13 PM
|Large trucks will do it too. The most amazing thing is that they often don't even rush back into their own lane if they see a car coming the other way. They just expect the oncoming traffic to move out of their way.
Of course in my town they drive over the line even when there's nothing on the side of the road.
|Sorry, but do you only ride once a year???||spyderman|
Aug 19, 2003 10:37 PM
|I think they teach it in "Redneck" driving 101.
$hit happens every day...