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Idiots!(17 posts)

Idiots!KG 361
Aug 18, 2003 3:36 PM
I just voted in the poll on thi site regarding who was the world's greatest cyclist. LA leads Eddy by about 12% ! Really? You've got to be kidding. Lance is sure among the greats, but the best? I don't think so.
Agree! Never seen Lance wear the green or Polka...10speedfiend
Aug 18, 2003 4:25 PM
The Cannibal has wore all three at the same time.
Unfair comparison granted the eraSprint-Nick
Aug 18, 2003 4:41 PM
Comparing 2 riders of different eras is a very very unfair comparison especially with the changes in training, racing and technology. Riders are forced to specialize now when a long time ago although they still needed to it wasn't as much of an issue.

Try to be fair about comparing the average speed of 2 different tours... its completely unfair with different riders, different tactics and the race unfolding differently.

How about who was the most dominant in his respective era?Fez
Aug 19, 2003 5:31 AM
Eddy? 5 tours, won just about everything, won multiple events in the same year, wore multiple jerseys within the same event.

Lance? 5 tours.
Aug 19, 2003 8:28 AM
Lance: World Champion, 2 Classics victories.

Sure, he's no Eddy, but let's give the devil his due.
Greatest active cyclist or all-time cyclist?Spoiler
Aug 18, 2003 4:44 PM
Lance is the greatest active cyclist. Eddy is the most successful and most dominant male cyclist of all time.
Not even...Dwayne Barry
Aug 19, 2003 3:46 AM
Armstrong is currently the greatest GT rider (or maybe stage race rider) but Museeuw has a much more impressive palmares in comparison to other classics riders than Armstrong does in comparison to other GT or major stage race riders. Consequently I'd say Museeuw is the greatest active rider.
Who's Eddy Merckx?bsdc
Aug 18, 2003 4:49 PM
I think that's the problem with the pole. A lot of people don't know much, if anything, about Eddy.
Oh my gosh,Synchronicity
Aug 18, 2003 4:56 PM
Is that a joke?
No wonder LA won the poll: it was an *american* poll.
If it was european, surely the cannibal or Miguel Indurain would have come first.
Don't forget Hinault....Dwayne Barry
Aug 19, 2003 3:43 AM
Merckx is clearly the greatest ever, I think Hinault is a clear second, then you can start arguing about the rest. Armstrong maybe, maybe, gets into the top-10.
Eddy would be the fellow....dasho
Aug 18, 2003 5:52 PM
that also won the Tour de France 5 times and and probably would have won 6 if not for an injury. He also won the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France, and Vuelta ALL IN THE SAME YEAR among other things. He would have undoubtedly acccomplished much more if not for burn out from entering too many events.
Eddy would be the fellow....gmikes
Aug 19, 2003 1:30 AM
Actually, Eddy never won the Vuelta, Giro and the Tour in the same year. He did win them all on separate occasions. He did with the Giro, TdF and the World champs in the same year - 1974 - as did Roche in 97. The year that Merckx won the Vuelta was 1973 and after winning that and the Giro he took a miss on the Tour. I think he regretted it ever since.

You folks are right that not too many people know a lot about the great cyclists of yore. You've got to think of Merckx, Anquetil, Van Looy, Van Steenbergen, Bobet, Girardengo, Coppi, Bartali, Kubler, Koblet, Binda, Bottechia, De Bruyne, Moser, Hinault, Indurain, Poulidor, Zoetemelk, Magni, Lemond, Gimondi, Maertens, De Vlaeminck, Kelly, Roche and Armstrong - and there are lots more greats I haven't mentioned.

But, as was said, it is a very different sport now than it was even 15 years ago and it is very difficult to compare.
Roche won TdF in 97??? nmorange_julius
Aug 19, 2003 5:57 AM
Should've been 1987... Tour, Giro, Worlds, all 3 that year. nmrussw19
Aug 19, 2003 7:05 AM
What about CoppiAlpedhuez55
Aug 19, 2003 5:30 AM
Coppi has as many grand tours as Armstrong as well as a great a better in the classics. He also had lost 5 years to World War II. When I voted he had 1 or 2%. I would put him ahead of Armstrong though.

I went with Merckx. Hinault would be up there too. I guess it is a just a case of what have you done for me lately with this poll.

Mike Y.
Does Eddy have an Olympic Medal?Fez
Aug 19, 2003 5:33 AM
Regardless, I don't think there will ever be a cyclist as great as Eddy.

FWIW, Lance has said numerous times that Eddy was the greatest. And he means it.
Does Eddy have an Olympic Medal?Trent in WA
Aug 19, 2003 10:51 AM
Eddy turned pro young and rode in the era before professionals were allowed in the Olympics. So no medals, alas.