Aug 15, 2003 12:28 PM
|I just went on my 2nd group ride ever. It was great. I don't even remember where we went because I was so engaged in conversation. Ok say something dumb like we weren't riding fast enough if we could talk. Riding alone can sometimes drag and this was a real difference. We went 45 miles and it seemed like 20. I just wanted to share and encourage anyone who hasn't to ride with a group for a try.|
|To Group or not to group.||MXL02|
Aug 15, 2003 12:42 PM
|Group rides can be helpful in a variety of ways, depending on your riding goals. If your are putting in "foundation miles" at 60-70% max HR, then riding with a sociable group helps pass the time and makes the experience more enjoyable. Conversely, some groups of hammerheads/Lance Wannabes, ride like hell bent for leather every Saturday AM. This is a fast paceline type of ride, which is more like a race simulation with attacks, jumps in the pace, etc. For me, the latter helps me with bike handling and getting some anerobic workout time.
The problem is if you want to ride foundation miles and only have group B to ride with? - Then I typically ride alone.
Good job on your first group ride...continuing to ride with others will ultimately make you a better rider.
|To Group or not to group.||mosovich|
Aug 15, 2003 12:53 PM
|yeah, group rides are great. One problem I have here, is that sometimes the group rides can be more stressful than it's worth. A couple of guys want to hammer like hell and get all pissy if no one else does or vice versa. We've even had a couple of punches thrown. Yep, it can often be exciting. Problem is, often there's too much ego and not enough "let's enjoy our bikes and being outside".|
|To Group or not to group.||filtersweep|
Aug 15, 2003 1:08 PM
|The club I ride with won't hesitate to drop riders on the A-rides. There are often AB rides that fragment into all sorts of sub-groups. It defeats the purpose of the group to a certain extent, but it beats this situation:
a few days ago I was biking on the other side of the river. There is a huge valley and a bridge that is literally a mile long. This empties into an MUT that goes through a state park. This is one of the only ways to get home, since they CLOSED the best bridge across. Anyway, I'm riding at about 17 mph through the forest following another rider waiting for a safe place to pass in the state park on the narrow MUT with poor sight lines. This is already probably faster than I should be going. A bike passes me, then another, then an "on your left" and then there was almost a collision as an on-coming bike approached as someone was passing... and I'll skip the dogs and pedestrians- but there was a full-on club ride with over 30 riders screaming through the park. I asked if they were with a group and was told it was sponsored by one of the LBSes.
The club I ride with forbids any MUT use on anything higher than a C ride... and this apparently was a no drop ride since they were all together. When "we" hit the road (since I was still in the middle of their "pack"), they blocked the entire lane of traffic, riding four/five abreast, making it mildly annoying to pass them all. I hoped the groups I ride with never rode in such an obnoxious manner.
|Why does this happen...||funknuggets|
Aug 15, 2003 1:10 PM
|Just rode with a group the other day in a town that I was visiting, and they were telling how big their group once was... like 60 members and now it is almost nonexistent due to the same racer vs recreational issues. I just wonder why people just cant create a rec ride and a race team and if you cant hang, then dont go to the race team ride... and by goodness why get pissy about it... strange.|
|Most group rides in our community are like that.||MXL02|
Aug 15, 2003 1:22 PM
|We pretty much know which rides are the "hot" ones and which are laid back. Even on the hot ones, there are usually 2-3 guys who "don't have the legs" that particular day, and ride together after getting dropped. I think in any informal group ride it is difficult to remove the hyper-competitive element...I just try to incorporate it into my workout, trying to hang with them, doing sprint work during a bridge, etc. I think its just important to stay within yourself and not let your ego dictate how you ride.|
|Wanta try a real "fun" one?||KG 361|
Aug 15, 2003 2:09 PM
|Show up at World Cup Ski & Bike at 7am on Saturdays. Trust me, you won't be talking much =) BTW-which one did you do? The M-burg HS ride on Thurs?|
|Break them up from go, and have a ride leader..||Spunout|
Aug 15, 2003 5:21 PM
|Ottawa Bicycle Club has 1,055 members (and still counting!) so a few hundred show up for a ride start.
There are four different distances (50-150 km, but then there are the randonneurs) and a few different speeds in the higher distances. Everyone keeps up, no attacks. If you want to go off the front, they are happy to let you...alone!
Personally, I really focussed my speed training and recovery work by riding alone or with one other person.
|I have to praise the St. Louis area||coonass|
Aug 16, 2003 1:26 PM
|There are 7 (known) Cycling Groups here and 4 (known) racing team clubs and this doesn't include all the rides that the LBS have... and you never have to ride alone in this area. Most areas always have riders that will average anywhere from 17 - 25mph.....all you have to do is mingle in and do your share of the work.....Our small group of 8 riders meet every Sunday to partake in the local Bicycling Fun Club rides which will have 200 to 400 riders (every Sunday) and some of the popular rides will have about 500 riders....everyone rides his/her own pace...if I get dropped, or drop one of my buds, then I'll see them Tues. evening or next Sunday....no prima donnas here. We don't have the ocean or mountain views, just hundreds of miles of paved, winding, rural, country-side roads of great biking...(take a look at some of the calendars of these groups: http://www.recycledcycles.net/ccentral/ccgroups.html)|| |