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Well, I did it, pulled the trigger on a new custom IF!(9 posts)

Well, I did it, pulled the trigger on a new custom IF!Zonic Man
Aug 14, 2003 11:02 AM
Zonic Man Aug-13-03, 09:18 AM
"Well, I did it. I picked up a new custom roadie bike."
Will be here before the honeymoon, which is set for 3 weeks of hanging out and riding in Tuscany.
I went with an IF. They could do a full custom for me in 2 weeks (delivered), with custom paint.

I was fitted by Dr. Massimo Testa and a PhD in excercise physiology (and a Cat 2 racer and USCF elite coach) at the UC Davis Sports performance clinic.

This was further backed up by Myke Berna at Wheelworks in Davis.

Fitting was done by static size measurements and on a Serotta Fit Cycle in a 1 hour workout, measuring EKG and VO2 outputs, including wattage and power transfers at intervals via Power Cranks.

Fit was constantly tweaked on the fit cycle.

Plus, I supplied the designer of IF with all that info, as well as my static measurements, and he came up with the numbers.

The weird thing is, I'm 5'9", with a cycling inseam of 31.5".

I hope I'm not going to eat my words, but I think I covered all my bases in terms of sizing/fit.

Everybody here and on RBR gushes about IF's steel crown jewel, so I thought I'd partake in some of the love-in.

For you geometry geeks:

Seat tube length-51cm
tt length-53cm
head tube length-111.7mm
head tube angle-72
seat tube angle-73
tt angle-0
head tube above tt-17.7mm
Fork offset 5 cm
length 372mm

wheelbase 97.5cm
standover 77cm
chainstay length-410
Front center 578.4

This matches up with the following numbers:

Saddle Height: 73.6cm
Saddle Setback: 6.6 cm
Saddle to stem drop: 5.5cm
Saddle to handlebar 53 cm

For you gear geeks:

Campy Record 10
(I'll be getting '04 Carbon rear derailleur, front derailleur, seatpost, and carbon cranks on my trip to Italy in 3 weeks)
Chorus rear cassette 13-26
Neutron Wheels
Deda Newton OS finishing kit (100mm stem, 46cm bars)
Conti Force/Attack tires

Interested in hearing your thoughts/experiences on going with IF, and the fit (especially you more knowledgable people like "C40", etc.

Paint will be intense blue, with Vanilla shake panels as seen on this bike:
re: Well, I did it, pulled the trigger on a new custom IF!russw19
Aug 14, 2003 12:06 PM
Nice! Wasn't Dr. Testa the Motorola team doctor? I think your fit session was in good hands. I am thinking you will love your new bike.

The only input I would add is that I would tell you to save a few bucks, add about 20 grams, and get a Magic bar instead of the Newton. It's significantly stronger and stiffer and will last a good 3 to 5 years... I have been told to replace the Newton every year to 18 months, as it's not that strong, but ultralight. Many pros are running a Newton Stem - Magic Bar combo for this very reason. If you are a bigger stronger guy and get out of the saddle and torque your bars a lot, I would get the Magic. Otherwise I think your build choice is spectacular.

Post pics when you get the bike!

Good points.Zonic Man
Aug 14, 2003 12:15 PM
He was the team doc for motorolla. He's now me and my fiance's coach and doctor. We're lucky to have him.

As for the bar, it's already on its way to me. Bummer now that you say it.

I will post pics when it gets built up, and when I get back from honeymoon in italy, I'll do a full write-up and ride report with pictures and what not.
Good points.russw19
Aug 14, 2003 12:30 PM
Not a bummer, it's still lighter by like 20 or 40 grams... I don't remember exactly. Just be careful and inspect it every so often, and replace it if you crash it. It's a sweet bar, but better suited to the lightwieghts and the weight weenies... but still it's Deda's top of the line Aluminium bar. I was just saying it's one place where saving some money won't hurt ya if you went with the Magic.

Must be nice to have both a fiance that rides and Dr. Testa for a coach... you are a lucky man! Good luck and have fun riding in Italy.

Sounds like it'll be a great ride!AFrizzledFry
Aug 14, 2003 12:23 PM
Let us know how the bike handles, rides, feels, etc once you get it. I've been thinking about going custom with IF for my next bike- my geometry pretty much requires it from what i can tell- rides over 3 hours become a chore. It wont be for a few years until i'm able to throw down that kind of cash though, so for now i have to live with it- i'm only 20.

I'd like to know if you feel like it was worth it when its all said and done. plus, i need a race light bike- if you know the total weight i'd appreciate it. any info would be great, and enjoy the ride! sounds fantastic!
ok, I'll say it...gtx
Aug 15, 2003 8:22 AM
first of all, sounds like a great bike, and riding in Tuscany is awesome. BUT, if you really want feedback (ort he virtual kind) I would say that bike sounds small for someone who is 5' 9". This is an extreme example, but based on your saddle height of 73.6, Grant Peterson would put you on a 57 or 59 c-t! I would say that saddle height would translate to someting closer to 53 or 54 c-c. A 53 tt is also very short for someone who is 5' 9" unless you have major flexability issues or very short arms (possible I guess). Also, I'm curious why you didn't just opt for a stock 51, since the numbers are almost identical (your bike is actually a tad SMALLER--with a tt .5 less). Anyway, take this with a grain of salt, but you did askl for it!!! Have fun in Tuscany!
Thanks for the feedback.Zonic Man
Aug 15, 2003 11:00 AM
It does sound small. You're correct.

But the measurement is center to center with a SLIGHTLY sloping TT I think.

I'm build muscle-y, and I'm not the world's most flexible guy, I guess.

Arms, I dunno.

I went custom to get no toe overlap, a slightly lower bb with cornering, stiffer tubing, and a longer headtube. The headtube extention we did for asthetic purposes to minimize spacers and run a negative rise stem.

I just hope this is the right one.

FWIW, a stock 54 IF felt just a TAD long.

My current bike (litespeed sirius) feels just a wee bit too big with a 53.9 tt and a 100mm stem. It was recommended by my fitter that on my current bike, I should go about 5mm shorter, but they had my TT measured at 53, not 53.9 that litespeed quoted.

I'm just trusting the experts on this one, thanks for the feedback.
Aug 15, 2003 12:49 PM
Sounds good. I don't know how new you are to road biking, but perhaps you will come to want a more stretched out position as time goes one.

Curious-what's the bb drop and how are they changing the tube spec from stock to make it stiffer?

Anway, enjoy. I'm jealous of the bike and the trip!
Nice rig. Where was the pic taken? nmLive Steam
Aug 15, 2003 5:08 PM