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width of DMT last vs. Sidi(6 posts)

width of DMT last vs. SidiBergMann
Aug 13, 2003 10:43 PM
I am still out there looking for the perfect road shoe. Sidis are just a tad too wide for me in the heel pocket (yes, even the narrow models: Sidi makes the toe box narrower, but doesn't alter the heel pocket).

How are the DMTs lasted? Frequent comparisons with Carnacs in past posts leads me to fear that this is yet another high-volume last that won't fit me.

Curious if there are any narrow-footed Sidi users who have tried the DMT on for comparison.
re: width of DMT last vs. SidiIan
Aug 14, 2003 6:53 AM
Wow, even the narrow Sidi's are too wide? You have one slender foot. You are incorrect about the heel, the shoe is more narrow over its entire length, not just the toe box. So if that is too wide, you might be in trouble. What length do you need? If it is not larger than a 43, you may want to try a women's G4. The women's also comes in a black, so you can't tell them apart and your riding buddies will not make fun of you. But they are cut differently than the men's. Since women's heels have less volume than men's, the women's shoes taper in at the heel cup. But, they only come up to a size 43, so I hope you are not larger than that.

Sorry, I can't help on the other comparison. But to my knowledge, for men, there is nothing more narrow than the Sidi.

Theory, practice, and Sidi fit.BergMann
Aug 14, 2003 9:44 AM
Interesting to know that the Sidis are at least nominally narrower across the entire last. In practice, however, I felt _no_ difference between the narrow and standard version in the heel (tried on several pairs and sizes of each), whereas the forefoot of the narrow shoe is actually _too narrow_ for both me and my orthotic. While the forefoot is easily 5+ mm narrower, in the heel, it can't be more than a mm or two - the difference is simply inappreciable. I'm fully aware I have freakish feet (AA width), but I have a friend with B-width feet who had the exact same experience.

It's not so much that I have lots of lateral slop in the heel, just too much vertical heel slippage.
My guess is that the overall shape of the Sidi heel cup does not suit my foot.

IMHO Sidi should pad the collar of the narrow shoe more rather than marginally change the width of the last.

As for the women's shoes, thanks for the idea, but I wear a 46!

Looks like I'll just keep riding in my MTB shoes for a while - they fit me like a glove.
Theory, practice, and Sidi fit.Ian
Aug 14, 2003 11:34 AM
Wow, AA in 46 huh? Yeah, that is going to be a tough one, as I am sure you are finding. What MTB shoes are you riding that fit so well?

Shimano, strangely enough...BergMann
Aug 14, 2003 2:08 PM
got 320s - had great luck with several generations of 200 series MTB shoes (210s, 220s etc). They fit _nothing like Shimano road shoes, unfortunately. Tried the latest shimano carbon road shoes and could put both feet side by side in one of those...
Shimano, strangely enough...Ian
Aug 14, 2003 3:04 PM
Wow, good luck. You may want to visit a cobbler. Ask your LBS if you can borrow a pair of shoes, take them to a cobbler and expalin to him how you need the shoes to fit. If he thinks he can accomplish it, buy the shoes and have him go at it. He may be able to chop and sew you into a great fit. The result may not be as pretty as the pair on the shelf, but if they fit...